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Old 07-25-2013, 05:38 PM   #15
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McDenny - I know you have a Lil Snoozy. I am deciding between Casita, ParkLiner and the Snoozy. I like the headroom in the ParkLiner and the toilet/shower area. The whole trailer has a surprisingly roomy feel for a taller person

How is the bathroom/toilet/shower area and overall headroom for a taller guy (6' or so)? in the Snoozy? I'm only 5'4" but my 6'2" son was wondering...

I contacted Snoozy about the toilet but they didn't tell me the model so I could look it up.

Any other comments on the Snoozy?
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:35 PM   #16
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Here's some pics of a stock Snoozy with options:

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Old 07-25-2013, 06:52 PM   #17
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How is the bathroom/toilet/shower area and overall headroom for a taller guy (6' or so)? in the Snoozy? I'm only 5'4" but my 6'2" son was wondering...
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Snoozy's interior height is listed at 6'4", compared to 6'5" for the Parkliner. The Parkliner cabin is a touch wider, but the Snoozy is longer. The Casita has a much longer history and a proven track record and customer service. It is a tough choice.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:39 PM   #18
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McDenny - I know you have a Lil Snoozy. I am deciding between Casita, ParkLiner and the Snoozy. I like the headroom in the ParkLiner and the toilet/shower area. The whole trailer has a surprisingly roomy feel for a taller person

How is the bathroom/toilet/shower area and overall headroom for a taller guy (6' or so)? in the Snoozy? I'm only 5'4" but my 6'2" son was wondering...

I contacted Snoozy about the toilet but they didn't tell me the model so I could look it up.

Any other comments on the Snoozy?
According to the website, the Snoozy headroom is 6'4". The bathroom is about 24" by 36", adequate room for comfortable reading. We have never used the shower, choose to leave the mess in the campground bathroom. Mostly only use the trailer bathroom at night. The Thetford cassette (C200CS) toilet is way better than a porta-potty, don't know if the others offer that option. Snoozy has surge disc brakes, others are electric, requiring more complexity and a brake controller in your tow vehicle. I like the Snoozy's rear door, I can easily load our two bikes in for traveling, much better than carrying them outside on a rack.

There are (relatively) lots of Casitas and Scamps around so you would be able to find used ones to look at not too far from home. In 5 months of Florida camping last winter I never saw a Parkliner or another Snoozy, you would probably have to travel to the East Coast to see them.

I think Snoozy's weakest point is the bed - one queen size is it. The sofa opens into a bed but its only long enough for a child. They may have a twin bed model now but I've not seen it. I believe the others have a bed at one end and a dinette and table that can be made into another bed on the other end. Casita has several differ models, Snoozy and Parkliner only have one.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:51 PM   #19
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I certainly wouldn't consider surge brakes to be an upgrade. Personally, I won't own a trailer with them.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:59 AM   #20
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I certainly wouldn't consider surge brakes to be an upgrade. Personally, I won't own a trailer with them.
I don't disagree that electric brakes give more control in that the trailer brakes can be operated independently of the tow vehicle.

Like everything, though, there are compromises. They are more complex, more prone to needing maintenance down the road and require a new skill on the driver's part to actuate them in a white-knuckle moment. Also, they don't work at all if the cheesy connectors we all use between the car and trailer don't make solid contact.

Every boat trailer and most contractors and industrial trailers use surge brakes.

Parkliner and Casita use electric brakes. Snoozy uses surge brakes. When I had a custom aluminum double axle trailer built for my boat the fab shop had a $250 up-charge for surge brakes vs their standard electric ones.
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Old 07-26-2013, 12:20 PM   #21
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From my experience,
surge brakes have come a long way baby.
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Old 07-26-2013, 03:10 PM   #22
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When surge brakes are adjustable on the fly for road conditions, can be applied independently of the tow vehicle, provide as much braking as electric, and don't screw you over backing uphill, let me know.

Until then, I won't touch them.

More complicated? Electric brake problem - buy $30 loaded backing plate, 4 bolts, two wires, everything is replaced. As for a bad connection, if that's not working, your lights aren't either. The only time electric brakes have failed me is when the wheel flew off my truck and ripped the trailer harness apart. I've used two surge brake trailers with rusted master cylinders

Surge brake problem. Possible master, caliper, bleed brakes (brake fluid should be replaced every few years, by the way), hoses to rot, etc.

Cost? Less to buy a good controller and wire it, then it is to pay for the surge setup on the trailer.

The only benefit to surge brakes is the rental industry, where they can't be sure everybody is equipped with trailer brakes, and boat trailers that get submerged.
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Old 07-26-2013, 06:26 PM   #23
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Jared - How do you like the Scamp overall? What else did you look at before purchase?
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When surge brakes are adjustable on the fly for road conditions, can be applied independently of the tow vehicle, provide as much braking as electric, and don't screw you over backing uphill, let me know.

Until then, I won't touch them.

More complicated? Electric brake problem - buy $30 loaded backing plate, 4 bolts, two wires, everything is replaced. As for a bad connection, if that's not working, your lights aren't either. The only time electric brakes have failed me is when the wheel flew off my truck and ripped the trailer harness apart. I've used two surge brake trailers with rusted master cylinders

Surge brake problem. Possible master, caliper, bleed brakes (brake fluid should be replaced every few years, by the way), hoses to rot, etc.

Cost? Less to buy a good controller and wire it, then it is to pay for the surge setup on the trailer.

The only benefit to surge brakes is the rental industry, where they can't be sure everybody is equipped with trailer brakes, and boat trailers that get submerged.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:31 PM   #24
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I have modern surge brakes on the heavy duty highway speed ready trailer my classic speed boat is on. I love them! (Just so y'all know.) I swear they help my truck stop!

I sure wouldn't want electric brakes on a boat trailer...

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Old 07-29-2013, 12:12 PM   #25
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Carl - great photos of the Snoozy. I'm impressed with the cabinetry and how spacious (well, it's relative, right) it looks in spite of the curve. And I really like the roof line. Are the walls covered with something like carpet (like the Casita?)
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Here's some pics of a stock Snoozy with options:

Backyard Photo Shoot

Thetford Cassette C200

Cassette C-200 CW/S/CS
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:38 PM   #26
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Carl - great photos of the Snoozy. I'm impressed with the cabinetry and how spacious (well, it's relative, right) it looks in spite of the curve. And I really like the roof line. Are the walls covered with something like carpet (like the Casita?)
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The inside is coated with some kind of spray on plastic I think.
Not sure what the material is, but there's no fabric sort in it.

I did opt for all the extra windows because it is all relative.
With 3 picture windows you can feel like you are still outside if you want.
They all three open (escape windows).
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Old 07-29-2013, 10:11 PM   #27
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The inside is a layer of structural fiberglass with a bumpy finish layer of gel coat.

In this close up of our towel rack you can see the interior finish on the wall.

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Jared - How do you like the Scamp overall? What else did you look at before purchase?
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Sorry, I missed this. I wanted a fifth wheel, and this was what I found in my price range, cheaper than many 13' ones of the same age on here.

I tore into it, I have a little left to go (no time at the moment), but it's mostly redone. I love it, I was against campers until I discovered the fiberglass side. I'm ok with redoing it at the beginning, but not ok with the issues the other ones always seem to have compared to these fiberglass ones.
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