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Old 11-05-2016, 04:36 PM   #29
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I've done a variety of things- negotiated hard and gotten a good deal, had a friend in the business get me a good price, and used online bids to find the cheapest price without haggling. (I did get a good deal though who knows if being there in person could have saved me a few hundred?) For me, it is worth it not have to haggle. I hate that part of car-buying. I wish everyone would just offer the best price and let me choose what I want.
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I've done a variety of things- negotiated hard and gotten a good deal, had a friend in the business get me a good price, and used online bids to find the cheapest price without haggling. (I did get a good deal though who knows if being there in person could have saved me a few hundred?) For me, it is worth it not have to haggle. I hate that part of car-buying. I wish everyone would just offer the best price and let me choose what I want.
Given a complacent consumer, what do you think the odds are of your wish coming to fruition? Wish in one hand....
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Lots of people feel the same, enough to make Costco the #2 "seller" of new cars, second only to the Auto Nation chain of dealers.

Whether or not that makes 400K people stupid will continue to be debated, I'm sure…
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Lots of people feel the same, enough to make Costco the #2 "seller" of new cars, second only to the Auto Nation chain of dealers.

Whether that makes 400K people stupid or not will continue to be debated, I'm sure…
Possibly stupid if they think it is the best possible deal. But quite likely happier than if they had to go haggle with a car dealer. Money isn't everything.
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Possibly stupid if they think it is the best possible deal. But quite likely happier than if they had to go haggle with a car dealer. Money isn't everything.
Had too??? What could be more fun fully dressed??
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What could be more fun than haggling with a car salesman?

Going to the dentist, washing and folding three weeks of kids' clothes, changing the rear bank of spark plugs on a transverse V6 engine in a minivan, unclogging a toilet, stomach flu, digging 50 post holes in hard packed clay,...

But perhaps you do all those things naked?

I'll give you this: I'd take the car dealer over a kidney stone.
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And maybe over childbirth...plus the car comes out cleaner.
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Our second child was a projectile vomiter, especially in the car. I actually thought of mentioning that, too…
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What could be more fun than haggling with a car salesman?

Going to the dentist, washing and folding three weeks of kids' clothes, changing the rear bank of spark plugs on a transverse V6 engine in a minivan, unclogging a toilet, stomach flu, digging 50 post holes in hard packed clay,...

But perhaps you do all those things naked?

I'll give you this: I'd take the car dealer over a kidney stone.
I guess you have graphically explained why so many people gladly pay at least $4000 too much for a new car! (about a month's salary)



Truthfully, the No Haggle method will likely become universal.
My response will simply be to give them my No Haggle fair price in writing at the bottom of the build sheet with my phone number and an expiration date by which they must respond.
Lets face it, there is no vehicle so desirable that it can't be resisted,and none so unique that it can't be bought used.

I once worked in a refinery, most often outdoors, in all sorts of weather.

While negotiating, I got within a small amount of buying a new car.
The salesman said " c'mon,its only $xxx"
I took the salesman outdoors to the car, ostensibly to ask a question or two about it. It was 39 degrees outside and misting rain. After about five minutes, the shivering salesman begged to go back inside.
I turned to him and said...
"Five minutes? and you want to go back inside? I have to spend two days out in this weather to earn $xxx"...
He met my price.
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...Lets face it, there is no vehicle so desirable that it can't be resisted,and none so unique that it can't be bought used....
Exactly!

I'm sure you understand that my previous post was intended as humorous hyperbole to express how distasteful many find the whole process.

I do not negotiate; I simply have a price in mind that I am willing to pay for a vehicle and I do not budge. The dealer tactics I have encountered are deliberately designed to prolong the process and wear down the buyer's resolve. At the end of the day, whether there is a car in my driveway or not, I always feel like I need to take a shower... or at least shake the dirt from my sandals.
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