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Old 07-25-2011, 07:04 PM   #15
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Hi: All...There's a certain amount of puffery allowed in any sales spiel, but you can usually tell when something just ain't kosher!!!
My greatest reason for owning an Escape trailer is the folks who build 'em... really use 'em!!! They try out all models at different rallys and have actually provided service calls while there. Their trailer of choice seems to be the 5.0...and I can certainly see why???
I'm sure it was hard for Reace& Tammy to start from scratch, to build a fiberglass trailer, but their original precept is still valid. Build a quality trailer the way the customer wants it so they don't have to do modifications to use it!!! Pretty simple if you ask me.
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:06 PM   #16
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Standard Practices
It is not unusual for an owner, employees and the like to begin promotion, particularly of new products, by writing articles or having articles written. As well, many articles one sees written are rewards for advertising.
But, Norm...

Surely you don't mean to say that masquerading as a satisfied customer/potential owner is the kind of "standard practice" one ought to engage in?
Isn't that an intended deception?
Or more plainly, an outright lie?
I wouldn't like to think that FGRV would encourage or condone that kind of practice.

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Old 07-25-2011, 07:21 PM   #17
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I have to wonder if this wasn't all intended a little "Tongue in Cheek"?
It is not very well done and not too clever if not.
It is all such a thinly veiled Smaok & Mirror that I have to think it just falls in the No such thing as bad publicity camp?
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I happen to believe that a certain amount of trust is needed to invest money in a product. You have to trust that things are on the up and up and that companys are who they say they are and will do what they say they will do. "Tongue and Cheek?" I'm not willing to take a chance on this.
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But, Norm...

Surely you don't mean to say that masquerading as a satisfied customer/potential owner is the kind of "standard practice" one ought to engage in?
Isn't that an intended deception?
Or more plainly, an outright lie?
I wouldn't like to think that FGRV would encourage or condone that kind of practice.

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I'm not trying to define what ought to be, but rather to mention that more frequently than not happens. Buyer beware has been a warning for smart customers for centuries. Beware = be aware.

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The aforementioned pattern of posts had me doubting, some 5 months ago, whether such a trailer would actually be produced. They certainly have proven that they are serious, though, and the trailers are real.

Speaking in general terms, if a company does things that I think are underhanded, how badly do I want their product? And what else about the product or warranty service might they be less than forthcoming about? I think a company should try to demonstrate high integrity... if not for integrity's sake, then at least for the sake of maximizing consumer confidence.

But as far as Smoakin Concepts is concerned, I'd like to think that there must be a reasonable explanation for all this and that we will hear the explanation soon from them.
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Old 07-25-2011, 07:51 PM   #21
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I happen to believe that a certain amount of trust is needed to invest money in a product. You have to trust that things are on the up and up and that companys are who they say they are and will do what they say they will do. "Tongue and Cheek?" I'm not willing to take a chance on this.
I am certainly not arguing with you,in fact I think my comment reinforces what you are saying.
I have been skeptical about the Snoozy from the start.

I do find it actually unbelievable though that if they were really Shilling for themselves they would not have used their own names?

I do think the product is interesting but before I would throw any money at it,I too would do some more digging.

I have spoken with them directly a few times,have you?
They want us to look hard before buying and are not taking money upfront either until you are really sold.

They seem to have an open door at the factory and are asking for suggestions and seeming to listen too.
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So, Angie... have you read this topic or asked questions of the FiberglassRV members that actually viewed the trailer and spoke with Nick?

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Old 07-25-2011, 08:11 PM   #23
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So, Angie... have you read this topic or asked questions of the FiberglassRV members that actually viewed the trailer and spoke with Nick?

Lil Snoozy @ the Gathering

I have read that. I am just a lover of fiberglass RV's. I have two brothers who have scamps. I like the casita liberty. My husband is 6'4" and has had concerns about the width of the door on the casita and having to turn a sharp corner when entering the casita camper. That is why we have hesitated on actually buying a casita.Then I found all the info on here about The Little Snoozy. I fell in love with it. I read ALL the site, everything I could find including the above. Studied the pictures really well and liked it and then did an internet search for The Lil Snoozy to find reviews. That's when I started noticing everything that I posted here. You don't know me but I have been reading these forums for years. I don't have much to share here because I don't have a rig. But I thought others would want to know what I found. I have not talked with any of the owners. After finding the stuff I found today I will probably keep looking, maybe look into a used Compact JR or Compact II.
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"I do find it actually unbelievable though that if they were really Shilling for themselves they would not have used their own names?"

Ed has a good point above. Is shilling anonymous with a fake name? or is it public, using your real name? Anyone have any thoughts on this? I have no idea myself.
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The thing that makes me mad is this "imposture" that they worked on Donna D.
Our own Donna D., unfailingly courteous and welcoming, being subjected to this snow job by "Alan Smo".
And do please note... she ASKS him if he's the manufacturer and he says NO.
I'll highlight that part of the exchange in red.
And Andrew GPS chimes in to ask a question, followed by...SILENCE.
Here's the entire exchange. You can read it in the original at New Camper - Lil Snoozy
Here we go...
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New Camper - Lil Snoozy
I am new so you guys bear with me till I get it all figured out. I just ordered a new Lil Snoozy and will be hittting the road with you guys soon. Its a new camper built down in SC. It is really cool. I have info on it on the trailer registry if anyone is interested. Kepp up the post cause they sure are helpful and interesting to read and some are down right funny. Alan

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Welcome to FiberglassRV Alan. Interesting.. not one picture on the website? Not even CAD for a floor plan. Since you live in the same town as the manufacturer... I just have to ask... are you the manufacturer?
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Welcome to FiberglassRV Alan. Interesting.. not one picture on the website? Not even CAD for a floor plan. Since you live in the same town as the manufacturer... I just have to ask... are you the manufacturer?
Thanks for the compliment but no, but I do know of them. This guy has built boats and fiberglass pools for years so he ought to know what he is doing

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Cool. Looking forward to pictures!!
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are all the boats and pools built at the Automotive place on 802 Riley Rd?

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I know, in your profile you are talking about how easily it pulls with your Caddy but, a CTS can easily pull almost anything that this forum visitors use. Have you towed any other campers with your Caddy so you can actually compare? Or, is it your first (to be) TT. I mean, if it is first, I am not at all surprised that you are so exited about it that you almost sound like a commercial for that trailer Heck, I just got an old Jubilee and I'm so excited about it that I could talk about it for hours to whoever is willing to listen even that till I restore it, I can't do much with it
In the profile, you say that is very different than anything else... well, my restoration puts me to an empty shell, so I'd like to know more precisely (more than oh boy, you will see) what is so ground breaking about it. I can really use some good ideas for my trailer. As I said, it's a shell so, there are very few limits as to what I can do with it! So, any specifics you can tell me. What can I do that isn't done in other trailers?



And that's all, folks!



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Old 07-26-2011, 05:00 AM   #26
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If you were a new manufacturer, and were just trying to let people know about your trailer, wouldn't you stupidly just try to get the word out. Then, a little later you realize your mistake, and stop. Yes, it was a dumb thing to do, but no they haven't continued doing it. Haven't we all made mistakes.....

I'm a believer in the lil snoozy. I have ordered my trailer, pickup this week. No, I'm no affiliated with the company, other than as a new owner. I believe in the product. I don't think I've been conned. I think they make a beautiful trailer.
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I for one am with you having a tough time waiting for your pickup!
I am dying to get your impressions being the first to learn to "Snooze"!
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Look, how many people saw it at the rally? Read those posts too. They saw the camper up close and personal and spoke with the owner.

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