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Old 10-18-2017, 12:12 PM   #15
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On the contrary... we bought our Scamp 13' to "match" the truck I still have the- the '99 Nissan 4cyl Frontier. In 2010, it was only 11 yr old with apx 65K on it- still like brand new. Both our kids had just gotten married within the past 2 yrs of that.

We debated and discussed hours on end during 2009. We finally decided selling the truck, buying a larger one then a larger camper would be the thing. I ran figures in my head and came up with apx $40 to 50 THOUSAND dollars of investment.

I finally told the wife, NO, that's going against everything I've wanted and worked for. Everything was/is paid for, we're now "empty nesters" and going back in dept?????? Dont think so!! Because at the time, she had never really "camped". We didnt know if she'd even like it!

The conclusion of the matter:
I emailed her one day and told her, we could pay cash for the $13K brand new Scamp. Pull it with our current truck. NO payments. IF we didnt like it, we might lose up to $3K on the trailer if we sold it, but that would certainly beat a possible $20-30K loss on two new vehicles!!!

The year is now 2017- 7-1/2 yrs later. We still have the same truck (90K miles) and the lil Scamp. We just got back a couple of weeks ago from a short trip to McFarland Park CG in Florence, AL from spending a week there. We added the 12' CLAM and we're VERY happy and content with our current setup that we use at the MAX 2-3 times a year. It's not to say that I wont get a larger vehicle someday AND a larger camper- finances would be different now than when the kids first got married! . But, while not a decision many would have made in 2009, it's one that we BOTH were VERY happy and still happy that we did.
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Old 10-18-2017, 12:44 PM   #16
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On the contrary... we bought our Scamp 13' to "match" the truck I still have the- the '99 Nissan 4cyl Frontier. In 2010, it was only 11 yr old with apx 65K on it- still like brand new. Both our kids had just gotten married within the past 2 yrs of that.

We debated and discussed hours on end during 2009. We finally decided selling the truck, buying a larger one then a larger camper would be the thing. I ran figures in my head and came up with apx $40 to 50 THOUSAND dollars of investment.

I finally told the wife, NO, that's going against everything I've wanted and worked for. Everything was/is paid for, we're now "empty nesters" and going back in dept?????? Dont think so!! Because at the time, she had never really "camped". We didnt know if she'd even like it!

The conclusion of the matter:
I emailed her one day and told her, we could pay cash for the $13K brand new Scamp. Pull it with our current truck. NO payments. IF we didnt like it, we might lose up to $3K on the trailer if we sold it, but that would certainly beat a possible $20-30K loss on two new vehicles!!!

The year is now 2017- 7-1/2 yrs later. We still have the same truck (90K miles) and the lil Scamp. We just got back a couple of weeks ago from a short trip to McFarland Park CG in Florence, AL from spending a week there. We added the 12' CLAM and we're VERY happy and content with our current setup that we use at the MAX 2-3 times a year. It's not to say that I wont get a larger vehicle someday AND a larger camper- finances would be different now than when the kids first got married! . But, while not a decision many would have made in 2009, it's one that we BOTH were VERY happy and still happy that we did.
Darell sounds like you are a great money manager . To tell my story I currently have now ,second owner1992 F250 with now 126,000 mi . I purchased second hand in 2003 and love my truck . The previous owner used to tow a boat . When we purchased truck it was for a second hand 1992 camper which we had for 10 years and sold for more then we purchased it . At first pulling our 2013 new Escape I thought was too much truck pulling lightweight trailer . Don't think that anymore . Look at new F 150 's and what they cost and until truck can't do the job will keep . Yup only get 9-11 mi towing . Can get 15 not towing . Pay a little more in gas with a V8 but all paid for . Cheaper tags and insurance also . I keep my truck up and keep improving our trailer , but everything paid for . Looking at the Oliver is just a dream and it doesn't hurt to have a dream .Pat
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Old 10-18-2017, 03:29 PM   #17
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Burro andTrillium are just a couple of examples of double wall construction which are really no heavier than their single walled counterparts.
Floyd,

How can that be with twice the number of shells and insulation between? Is it because the cabinets are molded into the inner shell? Did they make them even thinner?
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Old 10-18-2017, 03:36 PM   #18
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Upsized from a Casita 17LD when we both retired and the Ollie was just too heavy; didn't want to buy a big truck to pull it.
X2. I feel that our tow vehicle is big already. And reaching the roof to clean it is another consideration.
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Old 10-18-2017, 03:37 PM   #19
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Floyd,

How can that be with twice the number of shells and insulation between? Is it because the cabinets are molded into the inner shell? Did they make them even thinner?
I'm not Floyd, but two shells for the outside and two for the inside (and yes, the cabinetry is part of those), just like Burro and U-Haul created their trailers. Insulation is placed on the inside of the outside shells before they are all fiberglassed together.
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Old 10-18-2017, 03:39 PM   #20
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Hi Charlie Y,

They are made from white gold, which explains the weight!

Hey, I see you have an Escape 21'. Love that floorplan!

Take care,

Dean
Dean, I am sure that you would appreciate the 21'. Great trailer and can customize so much.
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Old 10-18-2017, 03:58 PM   #21
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Donna,

I get how they are made with four shells. That's why I was wondering about Floyd's comment that Burro and Trillium's double hulled trailers weigh the same as the single hulled ones. How can that be?
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Donna,

I get how they are made with four shells. That's why I was wondering about Floyd's comment that Burro and Trillium's double hulled trailers weigh the same as the single hulled ones. How can that be?
Trillium has fiberglass cabinetry, like Scamp, Casita, etc. but never built a double-hull.

Burro is double-hull, but also never built a single hull trailer. The Companion, which looks nearly identical to the Burro and IS a single hull trailer has wood cabinets and was built by a totally different company.

Weight for all these trailers is not so much in the fiberglass, but windows, appliances, air conditioners... etc., etc. It's one of the reasons the Compacts (and Hunter cousins) are among the lightest of the bunch. It's also because they're often the most simple.
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