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Old 09-09-2007, 10:51 PM   #15
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What's the reflective panel in front of the trailer?
It is a mural.
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:46 AM   #16
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I hope the Oliver is a big success as Casita and Scamp could use some competition to pull them into the 21st century on some of their fixtures and fittings.

But, (there's always a butt)

I am paying a steak dinner less than $16,000 for the Casita Liberty Deluxe 17', which has virtually every option Casita offers (I'll buy my own microwave, thank you very much). I expect that 80% of Casita owners never do a single mod and are reasonably happy, but there are a few mods that should be standard, like an inside shower drain valve, and maybe only a few more.

While some of the mentioned Oliver features would certainly be handy (electric stablization jacks), I'm not sure its a $10,000 benefit, but I suspect the market will be a-telling us!
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:55 AM   #17
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Patrick, I'm kinda with you. Not everyone wants a "Cadillac" trailer and would prefer to add (and pay) for their desired options. For the price, I think most would prefer the added dollars to go for a slightly larger trailer (20'-23'). Rather than all the "goodies."

We had this exact same discussion on the Genesis trailer not that long ago:
Genesis, New Fiberglass Trailer
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Genesis Price, what do you think?
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Old 09-10-2007, 12:02 PM   #18
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Someone asked if they are in production and the answer is yes. It is a slick unit and addresses a lot of the complaints that I have seen on the forums. Jared from Oliver Mfg. said they had made some improvements since this one was rolled out. Improved cook top and moving the light switches come to mind. Also you will be able to pick a color. He said that he was planning to come back to the River Valley Egg Rally next year with his black one. The one thing that jumped out at me when I walked in was how white it was. He did not have curtains hung to tone down the glow and it almost bleached everything out and it was cloudy day. Katy liked the bathroom sink arrangement much better than our Casita's, too.
A little $$$$ for us but for someone that wants all the extras without the work, they might think it is a good deal. People drive Cadillacs and Chevrolets both get you there and both have their attractions.

It was fun to look at,
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Old 09-10-2007, 01:01 PM   #19
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At RVER we got to spend time with Jared in the evenings. He knows his product inside and out. He listened to everyone's comments and may go back to the boss with new suggestions. The company will be sending the campers and reps to many RV shows across the country.

I was also overwhelmed by the sterile white. The fiberglass interior walls would be easy to clean but hard to make personal modifications to. The floor was tiled and the interior set up is similar to the Casitas. The camper is well made and has lots of bells and whistles. Perhaps to keep the price under better control some of the current standard things could become options such as the electric power cord winder, the audio/video equipment, etc.

But all in all, it is a very nicely thought out camper and there will be many people willing to pay for it. I think Jared said they have built 6 units so far and planning to build a larger unit (20'?) sometime in the future. The best thing is the company is willing to work with you on any customizing you may request.

This camper is definitely one to consider.

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The one thing that jumped out at me when I walked in was how white it was.
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I was also overwhelmed by the sterile white. The fiberglass interior walls would be easy to clean but hard to make personal modifications to. The floor was tiled and the interior set up is similar to the Casitas.
I'm thinking that this would be sought after by those who have allergies and wish to avoid carpet or "Rat Fur".
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:20 PM   #21
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I suspect from this discussion that some people may not be aware of previous topics dealing with the Oliver... some may want to do some searching in the forum.

I submitted some questions via the Oliver Legacy website, and received responses. Some of that information is now appearing in the descriptive text and FAQ on the website (such as the extensible tongue details), so I would encourage anyone with a specific question to try asking the Oliver people.
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:49 PM   #22
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The only thing that resulted in my search for "oliver" was this thread. Were there other discussions? Maybe I'm not using the search function properly.
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The prior "Oliver" thread was delelted by the Moderator. Something about suspected spam from one of the posters.

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Old 09-10-2007, 11:22 PM   #24
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It would be nice to see some official prices!
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:01 AM   #25
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Was that the thread where the owner of Oliver appeared - once? It was fairly long. Why delete an entire thread if one or two posts were spam?
Patrick, the thread was removed for a variety of reasons, none of which particularly had to do with anything posted by our membership. Unfortunately there are circumstances that you are not and can not be informed about that caused us to remove it.

Please feel free to continue with your regularly scheduled thread.

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Since the original thread is gone...

One of the features of this trailer which was discussed earlier is the unusual choice of a leaf-spring beam axle [b]suspension. That's normal for trailers, but uncommon in lightweight moulded fiberglass units. I asked Oliver why this was chosen (and other questions about suspension details), via their website, and got some answers. Some of the answers are now in their site's descriptive text, and some are still only in their discussion forum, which is currently not viewable.

One question for which there was no answer was this one:
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Your suspension system is the same design as my current Boler travel trailer, a B1700RGH which is in many ways the ancestor of your product. I have added shocks (although a more conventional one per side) which certainly improve behaviour, but I still find that it has - by automotive standards - less than optimal damping and insufficient roll stiffness. Part of the problem may be that the spring spacing (57" on centre) is too narrow for the track width (74"), which in turn is not as wide as the body would allow or trailer could use.

Should I expect better (more responsive, more stable) behaviour from the Oliver Legacy than my Boler, and if so, how does the design accomplish this? Can you provide key dimensions, such as the frame/leaf spacing, track width, axle drop, and trailer width?
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Old 09-11-2007, 06:41 PM   #28
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Seems like I remember Jarod telling me something about a design change that had been instituted that would give the 08's a wider stance, but I don't remember the exact details. I do remember that it was a change in the axle, seems like, and not the wheels.
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