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Old 05-14-2015, 03:27 AM   #15
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Alas - we were hoping better insulation would help. There was no problem with condensation in the warmer months with the Escape we had, even if our trailer was closed up (no AC).
So keeping the interior warm won't help?
Cold on the outside, heat on the inside = condensation
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:20 AM   #16
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Yes, the Oliver is truly 4 season. Since I took delivery of mine in February, I missed most of the worst of the cold weather, but I still had plenty of days in the 30's and nights in the high teens/low twenties.

I stopped using the gas furnace right away. The cube heater easily heated the cabin to 80+ degrees. There certainly is less condensation with electric heat than the gas. When I ran the furnace, I'd open the bathroom vent to get alittle air moving. I'd get a couple drips on my head here and there when I went in to use the bathroom. Obviously that was coming from the inside surface of the thin plastic vent cover.

I certainly didn't see "buckets" of water running down the walls, or anything coming out of my weep holes underneath.

So far, my Ollie has been a tank. No problems to report or breakages.
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We regularly camp in temperatures that drop a ways below freezing (otherwise we would not get much camping in around here), and have little issue with condensation. We use lots of warm bedding, and keep the temperature low in the trailer. We do keep a window and a vent cracked open a bit to disperse of moisture ladden air, and when we get up open them even more to help air things out a bit.

Whether you use the furnace, or an electrical heater should make no difference on condensation levels. All combustion air in a gas furnace is drawn from outside, and vented back out, with no moisture from it entering the trailer. The heated air is recycled from inside, just as it is with an electric heater. That said, the rare occasion we have 120V available, we prefer to use electric, as it is quieter, and saves on our propane usage.
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Old 05-14-2015, 09:32 AM   #18
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I was of the understanding that Escape does not imply their trailers even with the double pane windows and extra insulation to be a 4 Season trailer - only 3 season.

As others have said condensation is a real issue in most trailers if there is little venting.
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For the curious

Two people lose about 1.5-2 Liters of water a day, half through the skin and half by breathing. Exercise increases the lose.
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I was of the understanding that Escape does not imply their trailers even with the double pane windows and extra insulation to be a 4 Season trailer - only 3 season.
True, and pretty much all I use it for.

Of course it is possible to make it work in winter, if you can have lots of heat and venting to drive the moisture out.
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Old 05-28-2015, 05:20 AM   #21
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No Brainer, Mike

Get the Oliver if money is not an issue, IMHO
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I don't really see the Oliver and Escape as competitors. They're quite different. The Oliver is more like a fiberglass alternative to a high end trailer like an Airstream. The Escape is more like an upgraded version of traditional eggs. It all depends on what are your must haves, and how much you're willing to spend.


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Get the Oliver if money is not an issue, IMHO
Or if you don't mind a little table for two where you can't have friends over for cards without rearranging the beds.
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I don't really see the Oliver and Escape as competitors. They're quite different. The Oliver is more like a fiberglass alternative to a high end trailer like an Airstream.
Or a fiberglass Bigfoot
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Or if you don't mind a little table for two where you can't have friends over for cards without rearranging the beds.
What are you talking about? With one of the floorplans, you get one huge dinette (that makes a bed) and the small one. You could host at least 6 people.
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What are you talking about? With one of the floorplans, you get one huge dinette (that makes a bed) and the small one. You could host at least 6 people.

Yeah, I didn't get that either Ron. The Oliver can seat many people - comfortably.


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Old 05-30-2015, 07:26 AM   #27
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Or if you don't mind a little table for two where you can't have friends over for cards without rearranging the beds.
I'll try to translate,

"The Escape 21 has a four place dinette in addition the the bed. If you entertain, you might enjoy that floorplan. In an Oliver, you would have to convert the beds to a dinette. Have a nice day."
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Old 05-30-2015, 10:36 AM   #28
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If we ever go bigger from our Casita it will be with the Escape. I've seen many at the rallies and being able to leave the bed up and still have a nice size dinette up is the way I want to go.

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