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Old 10-24-2007, 07:24 PM   #15
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Steve, Roger suggested... as I did, that Oliver go to a 21' foot trailer to get the queen bed.
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Old 10-25-2007, 09:49 AM   #16
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... or as Roger suggested elsewhere, why not just go with a 25' for the walk around queen bed. Seems like an endless quest.
Still amazes me that Airstream can pack so much function in a 16 footer.

From what I can see and have read the biggest thing Airstream has to offer is "snooty" value. Here's a message sent to a Scamp group.

"Deb&I were returning from a trip to Chicago yesterday when we decided
to stop at the Bolingbrook Airstream dealership.Our hope was to see
the new TADAH 16ft travel trailer[a sort of stretch-limo version of
the TAB].
Well, they didn't have those in stock and implied that the hoi
polloi might find the items we sought and a more appropriate shopping
experience at their Indiana store.
Since we had already fought our way through traffic and managed to
find the well concealed access road which had apparently been used
recently by terrorist bombers for a practice range, we decided to
view the products on hand.
First the StarStream, a new line of superior quality trailers
designed to appeal to the rich, since the rich can no longer afford
the experience of owning a real Airstream! This trailer is
conventional looking with an extra thick aluminium hide.
Starting to yawn, we decided that we should move on to something
more exciting.
The 16ft Airstream Bambi was our next stop! This Trailer has always
held near ICON status in my mind as the ultimate travel trailer. It
is of course beautiful and well made.
As we examined this marvelous creation, we began to see that it's
feet were made [at least partially] of clay. Deb found the Bathroom
to be less commodious than our Scamp and the bed was 6inches
narrower. I noticed that the Bambi would look with distain upon any
decent sized tow vehicle. My Escape seemed to cower and shiver at the
prospect[just being parked next to it]. Then came the real SHOCK!
This thing costs OVER $50,000 with tax! That's nearly a $20,000
increase to an already high price of 4 years earlier.
Feeling blessed, we excused ourselves and returned home,with a
renewed appreciation of our trailer and our lives of sensible scale
and more than adequate comfort.
That evening I went out to visit Eggy-sue[our 13dlxe].
Ensconced in her ambiance, I watched an old episode of "Burke's Law"
on the DVD, content in the knowledge that I had made the right choice
and that the remaining $35,000 in the bank added greatly to my repose.
HAPPY CAMPING EVERYONE!"
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Old 10-25-2007, 10:15 AM   #17
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... or as Roger suggested elsewhere, why not just go with a 25' for the walk around queen bed. Seems like an endless quest.
Still amazes me that Airstream can pack so much function in a 16 footer.
I did go for the 25' with the walk-around queen. And... having been a 1961 Bambi 16' owner for four years, and Airstream owners for twenty continuous years, the new models hold absolutely no interest for me. They're heavy, have lots of warranty issues (corrosion, improper fit & finish, leaks etc.) and cost a very large fortune now.

But we've covered this territory before: http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/index.ph...mp;hl=airstream

Function, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.

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Old 10-25-2007, 12:31 PM   #18
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The weight seems to put it at par with a Casita 17'. Interesting construction with the steel frame and fiberglass skin. Downside .... not available here.
And not discussed indepth on FiberglassRV, a forum for Molded Lightweight Fiberglass RVs. There are lots of trailer brands with frames and fiberglass skin. Those wishes to discuss the merits of seams, etc. might find something in common with members at the Open Road forums at RV.net... here
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Old 10-25-2007, 12:34 PM   #19
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From what little I've seen and read about the Oliver trailer, it seems impressive. However impressive it might be, it still has to hurdle the same obstacles as any new manufacturing company faces. The national average (at least the last time I noted) was that a new manufacturing facility had to survive 7 years to be considered viable and to have a future. I've owned several businesses, and let me tell you from a personal viewpoint.....................7 years of struggling is a very very long time! I truly hope Oliver hangs in there. Looks as if the have a good product.

As for me, I love my newly acquired 17' Casita and think it will serve my purposes for as long as I want to travel with a trailer.
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Old 10-25-2007, 02:34 PM   #20
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Steve, I believe the Eriba has aluminum skin with molded fiberglass roof. That puts it outside our focus for "in-depth" discussion.
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Old 10-25-2007, 04:22 PM   #21
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Steve, the Eriba is mentioned regularly here. Frankly, they share many of the attributes of our fiberglass trailers. What they aren't is fiberglass, so we don't discuss them in depth.

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Old 10-25-2007, 06:25 PM   #22
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One concern which was briefly raised was potential failure of a new RV manufacturer.

If I were considering a new car, I would be concerned if the maker were to go out of business and be unable to support it in a couple of years; in contrast, RVs are simpler and generally built of common components which remain available and supportable even when the RV maker is long gone.

The maker of my Boler has been gone for a couple of decades, but there is no problem getting parts and materials to maintain the trailer, which means that it can retain its value as well as the products of makers who are still in business. I certainly hope that Oliver makes it in the business, but I don't think the risk of them not making it should hurt the resale value much.
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:07 PM   #23
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I spoke with Jim Oliver at the RV show in Pomona. Their plan is to make a modified Liberty-type with L shaped twin beds, then a two axle 20 footer that would have a full time king or queen bed and dinette. I told him to go right for the 20 footer. We already know how to make every modification possible for a 17 foot Casita! The trailer is not their first business. They already are in the business of fiberglass making foundations for mobile homes (didn't know that they used fiberglass in them) and fiberglass tubs, surrounds and showers. There are three Casitas in the family. After using them for camping and hunting, they decided to make their own version with some major improvements. But I feel that the current Casita owner and fiberglass RV owner is looking for something more innovative. Jim really put allot of thought into the trailer and I do hope they make it, but he needs find his niche in the market. It is not a run of the mill trailer. The construction is a big upgrade from a Casita. I personally don't care for the white fiberglass inside, but it is very well constructed with better fixtures, LED lighting, better weight distribution, no rivets to pop...the list goes on.....
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Old 10-28-2007, 07:45 PM   #24
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I think a point to ponder is to wait a while untill it proves itself. Sometimes we see what we want to see. Time will tell if unit is as good as we all think.
Just my thoughts.
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:24 PM   #25
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...The construction is a big upgrade from a Casita.
Harumph!

Well, I suppose it is your opinion, although I personally tend to avoid slamming (perhaps too strong a word) specific trailer brands.

I agree with Chester. They are doing things differently. Time will tell if they’re also better.
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Old 10-28-2007, 11:16 PM   #26
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You are definitely right, Steve. It is my opinion. I am not putting down a Casita...I own one and like it....allot! If I had my choice today to buy a Casita or Oliver, I'd take the Casita. I like the style and warmth (feeling, not temperature) of the Casita better than the Oliver, but I do feel that the Oliver is better constructed. As you said, time will tell.....but I'm rooting for them. A little competition is always good. Jim Oliver is open to suggestions and finding out what the buyers want.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:33 AM   #27
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