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Old 06-20-2012, 05:19 PM   #15
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hey dave----your brother lives a very interesting life...

that he comes faithfully each friday is great. you're lucky to have your brother that close-by. "wack" or not.

happy camping!
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Mom shows up occasionally as well. If your are in Calgary, on a Friday, stop in. We have hot dogs and marshmallows as well.
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I'm really not really keen on rest area as a place to crash for the night. If they have security I would figure it's ok but as most are out of town and some are pretty isolated so I would tend to pick a truck stop over a rest area. I know at least one rest area near Novi Mich. was closed and dismantled due to criminal activity, and another on 275 N. of I94 that probably should be.

When I wake up, truck stop has better coffee too.

However I will say I have seen truck stops that I would be reluctant to sleep at. Surrounded by bars and massage parlors does not imply a good location for a safe, peaceful nights sleep.
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:14 PM   #18
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I think it's Kansas that has specific areas for overnighting. So does the Ohio turnpike. We've used both. Also have used truck stops, a McDonald's once, casinos, Cabela's (they have a full hookup rv park at the main store), church parking , Walmarts.
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I'm really not really keen on rest area as a place to crash for the night. If they have security I would figure it's ok but as most are out of town and some are pretty isolated so I would tend to pick a truck stop over a rest area. I know at least one rest area near Novi Mich. was closed and dismantled due to criminal activity, and another on 275 N. of I94 that probably should be.

When I wake up, truck stop has better coffee too.

However I will say I have seen truck stops that I would be reluctant to sleep at. Surrounded by bars and massage parlors does not imply a good location for a safe, peaceful nights sleep.
No trucks at a rest area, no stop. Trucks, I'll slip between a couple if there's an open spot.
Since they closed one that means they'll all bad??? I don't think so. There was a problem, it was taken care of.
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Yep, my brother is a bit wack. He installs elevators, so income is not the problem. His kids are all grown, he is no longer married, and he is looking to shed commitments. I guess an address is a commitment.

He is looking to sell the fifth wheel toy hauler and build an 8x8x8 cube that will fit on the back of his flat deck. He has a crane on the truck. The materials of construction are 1.5" Styrofoam covered on both sides with corrugated plastic, the stuff that election signs are made of. With an aluminum frame at all the corners.

He still comes over to my place every Friday for fire, pizza and beer.
Dave (or anyone) Where can I buy that corrugated plastic stuff?
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Dave (or anyone) Where can I buy that corrugated plastic stuff?
Menards has it, it's kinda pricey
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I'm really not really keen on rest area as a place to crash for the night. If they have security I would figure it's ok but as most are out of town and some are pretty isolated so I would tend to pick a truck stop over a rest area. I know at least one rest area near Novi Mich. was closed and dismantled due to criminal activity, and another on 275 N. of I94 that probably should be.

When I wake up, truck stop has better coffee too.

However I will say I have seen truck stops that I would be reluctant to sleep at. Surrounded by bars and massage parlors does not imply a good location for a safe, peaceful nights sleep.
I live near that area. I think that these rest stops were closed because there is plenty of businesses in the area (it is suburban) and the rest stops had become a gathering place for people with....ah,..... alternative life styles.
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Dave (or anyone) Where can I buy that corrugated plastic stuff?
My brother picked it up at Home Depot in Calgary. I think it was about $18 for a 4 x 8 sheet. They had it in translucent and white.
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No trucks at a rest area, no stop. Trucks, I'll slip between a couple if there's an open spot.
Since they closed one that means they'll all bad??? I don't think so. There was a problem, it was taken care of.
I think the key thing is are there people around, and does it seem resonable that those people are law abiding. I too would pull in with the trucks for a nap. But not in a desolate rest area, and have seen a lot of those too. Not all bad, just not going to assume anyplace is safe unless I can put a reason to it being safe, people, security, security cameras etc. and I trust my instincts if it don't feel "right".

Was once followed from the 23 S rest area outside of Ann Arbor, through town including some non-direct streets, all the way to the parking lot of Pittsfield Twp. police station. When I got out of the car to find out why they were following us they immediately took off with tires squealing. Don't know if it was me or if they suddenly realized it was a police station.

What I think happened is my girl friend was driving, she got out to use bathroom at rest area, I stayed in car. My hair was long enough that in a dark car I believe someone thought it was two girls. Have had a waitress (or two) make that mistake from the back and side. From the front Mustache is a dead give away.
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We overnighted at a rest area in Montana on our way to Yellowstone last September. They did have signs that stated "no camping" but we stopped in the visitor center of a rest area when we first entered Montana and asked for clarification and were told it basically meant no pitching a tent, but they had no problem with anyone stopping for the night to rest.

The rest area in Duluth, MN wasn't half bad either. There was an area where cars were parked (for the night) and in the truck/travel trailer area there was one semi and us. We parked under the light and felt very safe.
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I think the key thing is are there people around, and does it seem resonable that those people are law abiding. I too would pull in with the trucks for a nap. But not in a desolate rest area, and have seen a lot of those too. Not all bad, just not going to assume anyplace is safe unless I can put a reason to it being safe, people, security, security cameras etc. and I trust my instincts if it don't feel "right".

Was once followed from the 23 S rest area outside of Ann Arbor, through town including some non-direct streets, all the way to the parking lot of Pittsfield Twp. police station. When I got out of the car to find out why they were following us they immediately took off with tires squealing. Don't know if it was me or if they suddenly realized it was a police station.

What I think happened is my girl friend was driving, she got out to use bathroom at rest area, I stayed in car. My hair was long enough that in a dark car I believe someone thought it was two girls. Have had a waitress (or two) make that mistake from the back and side. From the front Mustache is a dead give away.

There always two ways to view the world and anyplace in the world.
1. Assume everyplace is not safe and look for reasons to think it might be safe.
2. Assume everyplace is safe and look around for some reason think it might not be safe.

We all know there's thousands and thousands of problems at all the rest stops through out the US. People getting robbed and killed every minute of the day and night, right?
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We overnighted at a rest area in Montana on our way to Yellowstone last September. They did have signs that stated "no camping" but we stopped in the visitor center of a rest area when we first entered Montana and asked for clarification and were told it basically meant no pitching a tent, but they had no problem with anyone stopping for the night to rest.

The rest area in Duluth, MN wasn't half bad either. There was an area where cars were parked (for the night) and in the truck/travel trailer area there was one semi and us. We parked under the light and felt very safe.
Seems to be the same in Wyoming:
"The following is a response from Ken Schultz explaining the use of rest areas for RVs. Basically it says thats it's OK to sleep in your RV. But no camping, which means no leveling jacks, popouts, chairs, etc. Here are excerpts from Mr. Schultz' letter: WYDOT recognizes that drowsy drivers are a hazard and one of the purposes of rest areas and parking areas along the road is to provide a location where the driver can attempt to alleviate the drowsiness and continue to his/her destination safely. In this interest, we do allow drivers to sleep in their vehicles, RVs included, in these areas. What WYDOT wants to avoid is having folks "set up camp" in our rest areas. When someone starts leveling their vehicle, extending the awnings and slide-outs, popping up the tent trailer or even pitching a tent, that's where we "draw the line." There are commercial campgrounds available for this. We are not in competition with these folks. As long as the vehicle is in "travel-ready" condition, i.e, you can essentially start and go, sleeping is OK. It's a fine line sometimes, but that is our attempt at differentiating between "sleeping" and "camping." We have not defined a maximum time a person may park in a rest area. 18-wheelers often spend the entire night, and we would rather have them sleep in the rest area than cause an accident by falling asleep while driving. We feel the same way about all drivers in this regard. As long as the vehicle is ready to travel, we consider that sleeping. Enforcement is a challenge, since WYDOT doesn't have forces out at all hours of every day. The Wyoming Highway Patrol helps with these situations at times, but, similarly, they are not staffed for 24/7 coverage every day. I hope this helps answer your question and assists in your effort to compile your list. Thanks for asking and have a safe journey, wherever your destination may be."
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dave---your brother's story seems truly excessive. LIVING at the flying J is not what most of us mean by "staying at a rest/truck stop". i am surprised that the police gave him 2 days to clear out--after all, he had his truck and trailer there and could theoretically been out of there within the hour.

overnighting is not camping. it's sleeping while on the road. no fires. no bbqs, and no tents/tent trailers.

we have overnighted in flying j's while travelling, in walmarts and once in a connecticutt rest stop that had security. but we wouldn't live at one.
Honestly, you'd be surprised how some people stretch the goodwill and definition of "overnighting."
A few years ago, we noticed an RV at the local Walmart in NC. Parked day after day, in the same spot, in the shade, for weeks. Power cord to the genset in the bushes.
This summer, signs are up that say "no overnighting." We pretty much know why. Even so, a truck camper and a small motorhome seemed comfy at the edges of the lot, curtains drawn.
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