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Old 09-12-2017, 04:57 PM   #15
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There's couple of web sites that list all available for overnight Walmarts.
Check it out. https://www.allstays.com/c/wal-mart-locations.htm
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Old 09-12-2017, 08:08 PM   #16
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I think that's what I said.



As to coastal SoCal, I can totally understand why it became necessary. So now there are whole websites devoted to "stealth camping."

Last I checked I didn't need a passport...
Not really... You said it IS widely banned in SoCal.




The passport thing must be reciproCal... Nobody needs a passport to enter California either!
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Old 09-12-2017, 08:31 PM   #17
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Good point, but actually it IS the fault of Walmart management.
Competent management, just like competent electrical work, requires skill and diligence. Banning overnight parking just to avoid enforcing the rules is incompetent and lazy on the part of management. Camping, squatting, homesteading, etc. is not the same as overnighting and those people should simply be asked to move along. Starting by showing concern and succinctly explaining the rule. Exercising good judgement is just part of good management.

We should not be a society which rewards laziness or intrusion while punishing those who would accept a simple gracious courtesy and honor its intent. ( not to mention the $50 spent at each stop!)
It's nice to talk about a high standard of behavior or tactics from Walmart, but they have private property that they developed for parking by customers. Store managers are not necessarily in the business of dealing with trespassers or squatters, who may have a bad attitude. I know I would not want to go out and deal with people, one by one, that had set up camp in the far corners of the parking lot. And calling police every time someone overstays brings other problems, especially if the store has a policy of allowing overnight stays. Their job is running the store and keeping it stable and profitable.

Not everyone will politely move on when being asked to, and expecting store managers to explain the rules to those trying to take advantage is unworkable and adds additional work to their regular duties.

Easiest method is to simply ban camping in the parking lot. Many of us who would like to simply stop over when tired, will lose the chance, but I can't blame Walmart. It's far simpler than keeping track of who is there and for how long and arguing with the ones who should not be there. Or calling the police over and over.

As usual, the rest of us pay the price for the worst players. If everyone was polite and considerate, there wouldn't be a problem.

As far as individual homeowners welcoming fellow travelers is concerned, look at RVillage.
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It's nice to talk about a high standard of behavior or tactics from Walmart, but they have private property that they developed for parking by customers. Store managers are not necessarily in the business of dealing with trespassers or squatters, who may have a bad attitude. I know I would not want to go out and deal with people, one by one, that had set up camp in the far corners of the parking lot. And calling police every time someone overstays brings other problems, especially if the store has a policy of allowing overnight stays. Their job is running the store and keeping it stable and profitable.

Not everyone will politely move on when being asked to, and expecting store managers to explain the rules to those trying to take advantage is unworkable and adds additional work to their regular duties.

Easiest method is to simply ban camping in the parking lot. Many of us who would like to simply stop over when tired, will lose the chance, but I can't blame Walmart. It's far simpler than keeping track of who is there and for how long and arguing with the ones who should not be there. Or calling the police over and over.

As usual, the rest of us pay the price for the worst players. If everyone was polite and considerate, there wouldn't be a problem.

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Exactly... but the easy way out is seldom the best.
I'll bet you'd want me to do the easiest method if I were fixing your brakes, right?
BTW; they all ban camping in the parking lot, Its overnight parking which is allowed. Like rating and capacity, words have meaning.

A good manager doesn't have to "keep track", he would be aware of what's going on around him and when it is appropriate to act.

I can see I have lost this argument and I see it again every time I seek quality help with anything. Second rate seems to be the highest standard anymore and Walmart may well be the best proof of that.

Pretty soon, you'll call to see your doctor and actually get a Nurse practitioner. Usually good enough... If he's not just seeking the easiest way to quitting time.
If so, it won't really matter if the hinges fall off your casket or if they bury it 5-1/2 feet under!
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Why does any Walmart or Walmart manager have to put up with people seeking free overnight camping? Are you entitled somehow?
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Old 09-12-2017, 09:54 PM   #20
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The Walmart in Colorado Springs is now posting signs that say no Truck, RV or Trailer parking overnight. I thought they were RV friendly
Seems like quite a few people in this forum do not understand the Walmart parking situation, a situation which also controls places such as Cabelas from not allowing overnight parking at some locations.

The majority of the time that a Walmart does not allow overnight sleeping in cars or RVs it is not about what the store manager does or does not want. The actual cause of their not allowing overnight stays is because the city/county/township/etc has banned it as a whole for all locations both on commercial lots and also on the streets.

Many towns up and down the Pacific coast line have ordinances prohibiting RVs and other types of wide vehicles from overnight parking in various areas of town. Colorado also has a fair number of towns with those ordinances. For instance Loveland, Colorado has pretty strict ordinances and the only place an RV can be parked on the streets overnight is immediately adjacent to a motel/hotel.
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What has always amazed me are the people that can afford a $40,000 to $65,000 trailer ( Think Escape ,Oliver Bigfoot , Airstream ) and then go camping at Walmarts , Cracker Barrels , truck stops or way side rests and brag about how they took a 2 month trip and spent an average of 38 cents / day on camping fees.
We do not camp at Walmarts , never have , never will , it just doesn't set right in my conscience. . We don't shop at Walmart so Walmart owes me nothing nor am I entitled to anything.
I would just rather pay my own way through life.
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We don't overnight at Wal-Marts or Cracker Barrels, but it's not out of conscience. If they allow it, there is nothing shady about it, whether we shop there or not. We avoid it because we hate the idea of sleeping in a parking lot, and because truth be told I would not get much rest worrying about security in such a setting. For us it's better to just find a cheap rv park or campground and sleep soundly - or to plan our trip so that an overnight in a parking lot is never necessary.
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Perhaps we FGRV owners, if we are willing, should set up a registry of those of us who are not restricted by deeds, ordinances, etc. who will allow other FGRV owners to "moochdock" at our homes. I have constructed a campsite along my driveway with water and 30 amp and have had a few guests use it. Just a thought.
Such an idea already exists - it's called "Boondockers Welcome" Check it out.
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I can think offhand of four Walmarts in Colorado Springs. A few days ago there were several RVs and semis in the lot at the Walmart side and several RVs on the Sams Club side at the location on S. Academy. Of course I didn't know how many were over-nighters. A few weeks ago I saw a travel trailer with a "please go away" sign attached to it. While I haven't inquired I'd guess that non-abusive RVs would be tolerated or accepted at S. Academy.
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What has always amazed me are the people that can afford a $40,000 to $65,000 trailer ( Think Escape ,Oliver Bigfoot , Airstream ) and then go camping at Walmarts , Cracker Barrels , truck stops or way side rests and brag about how they took a 2 month trip and spent an average of 38 cents / day on camping fees.
We do not camp at Walmarts , never have , never will , it just doesn't set right in my conscience. . We don't shop at Walmart so Walmart owes me nothing nor am I entitled to anything.
I would just rather pay my own way through life.
We have never camped at Walmart, Cracker Barrel or a truckstop. Ever try to find a campground at 10:30PM while on a trip across country? I don't think that parking at Walmart at 10:30PM is any different than parking there at 10:30AM. They want your business and offer free parking for the privilege. When they install parking meters I will quit shopping there, day or night!
I submit that most of those who overnight at Walmart have payed their own way through life (and that of many others) just as you have.

When I must pay $6 per hour to park at a campground while in transit, and disturb sleeping campers in the process, plus make detailed plans and reservations months in advance for the privilege, it will be time to sell my travel trailer.
Meantime , simply being called a mooch for taking a nap in a parking lot between two shopping visits won't stop me from availing myself of something as common as free parking.
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What has always amazed me are the people that can afford a $40,000 to $65,000 trailer ( Think Escape ,Oliver Bigfoot , Airstream ) and then go camping at Walmarts , Cracker Barrels , truck stops or way side rests and brag about how they took a 2 month trip and spent an average of 38 cents / day on camping fees.
We do not camp at Walmarts , never have , never will , it just doesn't set right in my conscience. . We don't shop at Walmart so Walmart owes me nothing nor am I entitled to anything.
I would just rather pay my own way through life.
That story certainly does not apply to me. I get tired just like anyone else and it becomes safer to stop than to press on to an organized campground in the middle of the night. Rest stops are great for this and I keep an eye out for them and how far to the next one. Even the dog needs a pit stop occasionally. I have a few favorite "nap" spots on the routes I know best. But I also recently spent three nights at a KOA at over $40. per night just because we were having fun exploring the area. We also spent two nights in different friends driveways which allowed an easy destination, no hassles and a nice visit at each place. Next, we were in the National Forest, miles from anyone.

I don't pride myself on having the cheapest possible trips, and that cost has nothing to do with the cost of my Oliver. I don't want the organized night stay to always be on a certain night at a certain distance away. Being spontaneous and stopping to see unexpected sights means arrival at the next place is a big variable. I also decide on the run if I like a town or not. Sometimes it's better to press on. Stopping for lunch and a nap at a rest stop by a river, or some other convenient place reduces stress, makes the trip easier, safer and is a chance to see sights I didn't anticipate.

We have joked about stopping at Walmart in the middle of the night and there are always a couple of big rigs and a couple of trailers at the one near us in Gardnerville. We haven't stayed at one yet, even though we do shop at the one near us, but doing so offers a chance to stretch your legs, pick up anything you might need, from ice, a hose, to coffee, ammo, a hat or bread. It's not taking advantage of them. They offer it for a reason. I'm certainly not cheap and fully pay my way, but I don't particularly like organized campgrounds with all the checkin/out, noise, expense and crowds, etc, just to take a break for a few hours. I don't see anything wrong with stopping under a parking lot light, in a well travelled spot, where it is an accepted store policy to allow it.
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A couple months ago I was making a left turn and caught my left trailer tire on the divider curb and broke a wheel. Big pop and aluminum flew.

With the tandem axle setup, I was able to hobble to the Walmart a half mile away. I disconnected and made the 80 miles round trip to my house for a tire and wheel. I had a very old tire with me buried under a lot of stuff in the box trailer, but it was strictly for emergencies.

All included, it took me about four hours to get out of there and I was grateful for the no-hassle attitude as I changed it out under a light. The trailer sat by itself for most of that time. I know of no other place in town where that would have been as easy.
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I see absolutely nothing wrong with parking for a few hours in a Walmart parking lot when enroute to a long distance destination. For instance, when we travel to FL in the middle of winter from the frozen North, there is often a small window of opportunity to make the 1,000+ mile trip without running into snow and ice storms. We try to make the trip in 2 days. We've covered up to 750 miles on day one. At 60 mph, that is one long day. We don't know how far we'll get, so making reservations is not a good idea. Dodging winter storms is our priority.

They say Sam Walton was an RVer, and he made it clear Walmart parking lots would always welcome RVs for weary travelers like us. We're customers, not free-loaders. It doesn't make sense to us to try to find a CG on the fly at 10 or 11 PM, pay good money to pull into a dark CG and hit the road at 5 AM while it's still dark. It could be the most beautiful CG in the world; but if dark, we wouldn't know or benefit by that. Seems foolish to throw your money away just because you're too proud to park where it's free, and you're welcome. As Floyd said, we're not camping, we're parking. I usually let customer service know in case they have an area they prefer we use. The lots are nearly empty when we pull in. We buy things we might need for the trip, and it seems like a no-brainer, win-win for Walmart and us.

As far as safety is concerned; we use the app I described earlier and look for reviews with clues like "Near new shopping center" or "Located in a good neighborhood". I was born in the Motor City and spent many years there and around the Windy City. I stay alert and consider myself a street-wise sheepdog. I also tend to spend my time and money in "2A friendly" states. 'Nuff said about that.

I used to belong to the BMW Motorcycle Owners of America. They published a paperback book called "The Anonymous Book" every year. It was a listing by state and city of any of the members who offered their homes, to fellow riders traveling across the country. It didn't list names, but included phone numbers and a set of codes that told you what was offered, for instance, a place to sleep, mechanical help, tools, towing, etc. You called a phone number and made arrangements accordingly. It was pretty popular among members. Now it could be done on the internet, and accessed with your phone. People with a common interest helping each other. What a concept! Good idea CPW!

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