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Old 08-05-2016, 10:58 AM   #15
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I had assumed those were standard items. Especially a furnace.
No and the fridge is a 1.9 ft^3. When Escape increased their price they sweetened the deal a little the way the car companies did by making what used to be optional, standard. Increase the profits while giving the customer something.
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:42 AM   #16
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One thing to consider regarding the ParkLiner price increase is that there had been no price change since the 2012 introduction of the ParkLiner. My feeling is that the Parkliner was priced too low to begin with. Further built-in optional accessories were also priced with too low a margin to be sustainable in the long run. In my opinion, a great many of the problems experienced by ParkLiner's original management (and customers) were, at least in part, due to pricing that was too low to support the staff required to provide quality customer service. To me, the current price increase is not excessive and should help the firm recoup past losses and provide the resources necessary for survival.

Of course, you should take my opinions with a grain of salt since we took delivery of our ParkLiner in March, 2013 and paid the original price.
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Old 08-14-2016, 08:53 PM   #17
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One thing to consider regarding the ParkLiner price increase is that there had been no price change since the 2012 introduction of the ParkLiner. My feeling is that the Pantyliner was priced too low to begin with. Further built-in optional accessories were also priced with too low a margin to be sustainable in the long run. In my opinion, a great many of the problems experienced by ParkLiner's original management (and customers) were, at least in part, due to pricing that was too low to support the staff required to provide quality customer service. To me, the current price increase is not excessive and should help the firm recoup past losses and provide the resources necessary for survival.

Of course, you should take my opinions with a grain of salt since we took delivery of our ParkLiner in March, 2013 and paid the original price.
Hey Bill.....ehh you might want to edit your post.....just sayin....))
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Old 08-14-2016, 09:25 PM   #18
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Hey Bill.....ehh you might want to edit your post.....just sayin....))
I fixed it. Silly auto "correct"!
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Old 08-15-2016, 08:03 AM   #19
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Thanks Tab & Mary. I guess it takes a second (and third) set of eyes to master the technology.
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Old 08-15-2016, 10:06 AM   #20
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No and the fridge is a 1.9 ft^3. When Escape increased their price they sweetened the deal a little the way the car companies did by making what used to be optional, standard. Increase the profits while giving the customer something.
True, so now I can't buy a new car since it is so chock full of crap I don't want and its all "FREE" (for only twice the money).
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Old 08-21-2016, 04:12 PM   #21
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We're still very happy with our Parkliner, especially since we haven't seen another model that has the interior height to accommodate taller folks.
We looked at Casita, Scamp, and Escape and none of those could beat the combination of 15 ft length, actual queen bed and 6'5" if not 6'6" standing head room inside.
If Escape could have matched that combination we would have been all over it, especially since we live on the west coast.
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Old 08-22-2016, 09:05 AM   #22
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Snoozy's price is up there already, too. So PL is comparable to several mfrs.
Thanks Mike Magee for making that point! Parkliner campers are now priced in line with the "competition". ALL RV manufacturers have to make some profit or they cease to be manufacturers. All Parkliner has done is take a hard line look at the costs of producing one of the highest quality fiberglass campers in the marketplace. All manufacturers have to do it periodically.
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I agree. If they had a separate black holding tank I'd order another one tomorrow.

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Old 08-24-2016, 05:06 PM   #24
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I agree. If they had a separate black holding tank I'd order another one tomorrow.

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So why are you set against having 1 tank to hold both the grey water and the black water? Don't you have to dump both of them anyway? I would think that the macerating toilet grinds the 'waste' up like a blender, and combining it with the grey water, it would pump out easily?

I haven't bought one yet, but will be ordering one soon. This will be my first RV, so I'm just curious as to what is so bad about not having 2 separate tanks.
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Grey water can be safely dumped almost anywhere. I often just dump it in my field/yard. And in some states you are asked to dump grey water in a specific spot at your site to water the foliage. Can't do that with black.
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Grey water can be safely dumped almost anywhere. I often just dump it in my field/yard. And in some states you are asked to dump grey water in a specific spot at your site to water the foliage. Can't do that with black.
Since you have to dump a black tank anyway, why not dump a combined grey and black tank?
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Since you have to dump a black tank anyway, why not dump a combined grey and black tank?
As some one who does a lot of camping without hook ups I would also never want a combo tank for several reasons.

The big one is that even when dry camping I rarely use up the black tank capacity - no were nearly as fast as I will use up the grey tank capacity. I can go a pretty long time without needing to drain the black tank.

It is very simple to drain your grey tank into a portable tote using a short garden hose (which you would not be able to do with the black tank waste) and take it someplace they allow you to dump it. Some places have designated spots for tenters to dispose of their dish water etc. Depending on where you are camping you may even be permitted to dump your grey water (assuming it does not have much if any kitchen waste mixed in it) around the local trees that are in need of watering. The odds of being allowed to do that with black tank waste mixed in are slim to none for obvious reasons!

With my old Scamp I often camped for a week or more without hook ups & only ever needed to drain my grey water and never my black tank.

When you have two separate tanks at the dump station - you first dump the black tank and then the grey water tank - that process rinses/cleans out the dump hose of the black tank waste. If you have black water and grey water mixed you are going to have to use a separate water system after dumping to clean out your dump hose. If your dumping at a place that does not have a separate water hose (dumped at a number of dump stations that do not) for rinsing out the slinky hose you are stuck with putting a dirty smelly slinky hose back into the storage spot in the trailer. Hope the weather is not to warm so the smell of it does not get to you or the waste cakes on it to the point you have a problem cleaning it out well once you get to a location you can.

Last but not least - its is not easy if not impossible to really clean out the inside of a portable tote after it has been used for black water! Prefer not having a stinky portable tote in my vehicle or my trailer.
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Thanks Carol. You even came up with some good reasons I hadn't thought of.

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