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Old 08-24-2016, 09:11 PM   #29
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LOL do not get me started on my concerns with the use of a macerating toilet

Hope the trailer has a real big fresh water tank to keep that puppy actually working!
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Old 08-24-2016, 10:45 PM   #30
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True, so now I can't buy a new car since it is so chock full of crap I don't want and its all "FREE" (for only twice the money).
That was already the case, to some extent, back in 1996 - the last time I bought a brand new vehicle. I wanted an S-10 pickup without a radio since I always installed an aftermarket stereo system. The ONLY way I could get one without a radio was to get it without a rear bumper as well. That made no sense to me, and the dealership couldn't explain it except - that's they way it is.
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Old 08-25-2016, 07:41 AM   #31
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Do what you feel Sandy..it will be your trailer. Camping is one entity in life that you REALLY have to experience to understand it's pleasures coupled with its nuances, aggravations, etc. Ask me how I know!

With that said, dumping your tanks is one of the worst things of RVing. Some will get on here and argue about use public restrooms...yada yada. But without my bathroom, I would not own my Scamp...period. But it does come with a price but one that I've been MORE than willing to pay for the past 6 yrs. You go to a bathroom and it's full what do you do; or one that's so nasty... well you get the picture.

Dumping your own tank is an experience. But just let me give you my opinion- that I'm VERY glad to be able to hook my hose up and dump the grey tank last. We shake the hose to help remove any residual waste left in there by the black tank. Carol so aptly mentioned that IF you have to dump one tank and it's seweage included and there's no way to wash the hose out....well..... I suggest you leave water in your FRESH tank to try and flush it out the best you can When dumping. Meaning...shut off the valve, run in some fresh water into the tank and dump again.

IF you have to dump at a dump station- and I've run into this alot at Piney- and you have a line behind you, then running fresh water and re-dumping...well I'm trying to help you see where we're coming from.

One FINAL suggestion- IF you go with one tank, use ODORLOS chemical in your tank only! It neutralizes the waste and stops the smell. I learned this the hard way and Floyd put me on to the ODORLOS and now I will not even consider anything else (unless it's a chemical equal to it).

Good luck and happy camping with whatever your decision.

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So why are you set against having 1 tank to hold both the grey water and the black water? Don't you have to dump both of them anyway? I would think that the macerating toilet grinds the 'waste' up like a blender, and combining it with the grey water, it would pump out easily?

I haven't bought one yet, but will be ordering one soon. This will be my first RV, so I'm just curious as to what is so bad about not having 2 separate tanks.
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Old 08-25-2016, 07:54 AM   #32
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At the risk of repeating myself too often, like I said before. I think the Parkliner is a superior trailer, except.... redesign with a separate black tank and I'll order one tomorrow, even if they keep that ridiculous macerating toilet.

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Old 08-25-2016, 08:13 AM   #33
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Thanks for your input

Thanks - That's what Tom Bass at Parkin error told me, to flush the hose with the water in the fresh water tank. I will be aware of the lines. If the line is really long, I'll either wait till everyone is done, or take it to a Flying J near my house to dump the tank.
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Thanks - That's what Tom Bass at Parkin error told me, to flush the hose with the water in the fresh water tank.
In theory thats a good solution BUT if you have been camping someplace off the grid the odds are not in your favour to actually have much if any fresh waster left in your tanks to do that!
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There's pro's and con's to everything. If I'm running that close, I will head home anyway or go get more water.

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In theory thats a good solution BUT if you have been camping someplace off the grid the odds are not in your favour to actually have much if any fresh waster left in your tanks to do that!
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Old 08-25-2016, 12:09 PM   #36
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There's pro's and con's to everything. If I'm running that close, I will head home anyway or go get more water.
Your right. Do not get me wrong I am not dumping on the trailer in fact very HAPPY to see that the manufacture is back in Biz and that we have yet another FG trailer option once again.

Simple pointing out to someone who is new to trailers & who has asked why some of us who have been using trailers for years would not want a combo black/grey water system.

I appreciate that someone new to trailers might be lead to believe that by having only one tank valve to open up at the dump makes it easier and faster when in fact the opposite may be true.

Most trailers that have separate black and grey tanks have the valves for both coming off the same slinky hose connection point. So opening up one and then the other is a net time of about 5 seconds or less. Scamp is the only FG trailer I am aware of that requires you to move the slinky hose from the black water connection to the fresh water connection but having been there, done that, I know that is not a big time consumer either - once you have done it a few times - about 30 to 45 additional seconds to do.

Those who have 15-20 gallons of soapy water in their grey water tank to rinse the slinky hose out with, do not need to take the extra time to rinse it with fresh water every time they dump - especially if there is a long line up. And they are certainly not going to sit around and wait on a busy Sunday afternoon for the line up at the dump to disappear so they can take the extra time to rinse out their slinky hose. They are also probable not going to go home because they do not have enough water onboard to rinse out their slinky hose at the dump! If I am out of fresh water and want to stay were I am for another day I will as you suggest go and fill a 5 gallon water container and man handle it into the water filler. If I had a combo system and wanted to make sure I had enough fresh water onboard to rinse out the slinky hose the next day I would need to go out and haul back 4X that amount of fresh water.

Simple put I am a bit of a sceptic in regards to just how much fast and easier a combo system is at the end of the day to deal with
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Old 08-25-2016, 01:35 PM   #37
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A side comment here, suggested by Carol's note. On all my trailers I've done what I consider one of the most helpful mods of all. I've installed a takeoff line from the city water input line to the fresh water tank, with a valve that lets me fill the tank from the city water inlet when I plan to camp without a water hookup. No more schlepping 5 gal cans back and forth. I can fill up at home if necessary, or preferably closer to the campsite. The best is at many National Forest Campgrounds that don't have hookups but provide one or more potable faucets around the campground.

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Old 08-25-2016, 05:40 PM   #38
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LOL do not get me started on my concerns with the use of a macerating toilet

Hope the trailer has a real big fresh water tank to keep that puppy actually working!
The Parkliner has a 15 gal Fresh Water tank and a 30 gal Waste Water tank. I think I'll have enough water to rinse the stinky slinky.

I don't plan on boondocking very often, and when I do, it will only be for a few days at a time. I can always dump at the local Flying J.
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The Parkliner has a 15 gal Fresh Water tank and a 30 gal Waste Water tank. I think I'll have enough water to rinse the stinky slinky.
A 15 gal tank is going to get you by for a few days but personally would not expect to have much if any left in the fresh tank to flush anything out with.

Out of curiosity did they give you any indication regarding how much water you will need to flush each time the macerating toilet is used in order to generate a heavy enough water flow/pressure for the toilet to do its thing?
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I'll be taking with them tonight and will ask. Thanks for your input.

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I see now that the way you plan to use your camper has an impact on The combined gray/black waste-water tank question. I, too, was confused by Walter's insistence on separate systems. Carol's commentary was also helpful in understanding that boondocking requires some additional planning and preparation related to water usage. Most of the use of our ParkLiner has been in travelling as opposed to boondocking for longer periods of time. When I say travelling, I mean getting on the road, going for a few hours and then parking somewhere new almost every day. This represents about 90 percent of our camping experience including our 2014 65-day trip to Homer Alaska and back. Most of the time we park in a campground with fresh water hookups and a dumping facility. On those occasions when we do not have those luxuries we've never experienced a hardship passing up those chores for a couple of days. Odor was never a problem. The mascerating toilet worked just fine. Now, if you are a committed boondocker with limited water supplies that is probably a very different story but for our style of camping the ParkLiner has been a very trouble-free and thoroughly enjoyable experience.
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Well said. Yes it does depend on your camping style. And a lot of mine is much like yours, but not all. No only do I have several boondocking trips every year, but I also frequent campgrounds that have water and electric hookups but not sewer. I much prefer state and national park campgrounds to commercial ones. I have even camped in state park campgrounds that have a designated place at each site for dumping grey water to water the foliage, but obviously that wouldn't work with a Parkliner.

Happy camping to all in whatever way suits you.

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