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Old 12-25-2018, 08:28 AM   #15
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I spent several hours at their original warehouse on 2 occasions while I had some maintenance done. All the guys putting the Parkliner together worked hard and seemed to know what they were doing.

The problem was their process was terribly inefficient with no quality control. My best guess was they needed to complete assembly in about 1/2 the time it was taking them, plus reduce build problems to near 0, to turn a decent profit.

I know Tom Bass helped them a lot on the quality control side, but I don't think so much on the production side.

I have no idea how well the new management did at addressing these problems, but I do know you lose money every time a new RV leaves the warehouse with quality problems. Good quality control is a money maker.

I'm kind of surprised that fiberglass boat manufacturers haven't started building fiberglass trailers. They already have much of the necessary experience.
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Old 12-25-2018, 12:03 PM   #16
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I spent several hours at their original warehouse on 2 occasions while I had some maintenance done. All the guys putting the Parkliner together worked hard and seemed to know what they were doing.

The problem was their process was terribly inefficient with no quality control. My best guess was they needed to complete assembly in about 1/2 the time it was taking them, plus reduce build problems to near 0, to turn a decent profit.

I know Tom Bass helped them a lot on the quality control side, but I don't think so much on the production side.

I have no idea how well the new management did at addressing these problems, but I do know you lose money every time a new RV leaves the warehouse with quality problems. Good quality control is a money maker.

I'm kind of surprised that fiberglass boat manufacturers haven't started building fiberglass trailers. They already have much of the necessary experience.
You mean, like former boat maker Alan Smoak and the Li'l Snoozy!
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Old 12-25-2018, 12:29 PM   #17
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I spent several hours at their original warehouse on 2 occasions while I had some maintenance done. All the guys putting the Parkliner together worked hard and seemed to know what they were doing.

The problem was their process was terribly inefficient with no quality control. My best guess was they needed to complete assembly in about 1/2 the time it was taking them, plus reduce build problems to near 0, to turn a decent profit.

I know Tom Bass helped them a lot on the quality control side, but I don't think so much on the production side.

I have no idea how well the new management did at addressing these problems, but I do know you lose money every time a new RV leaves the warehouse with quality problems. Good quality control is a money maker.

I'm kind of surprised that fiberglass boat manufacturers haven't started building fiberglass trailers. They already have much of the necessary experience.
My wish would be for a fiberglass trailer that matched the quality of the fiberglass on a boat . Iíve seen fiberglass on trailers where the gel coat is thicker than the fiberglass backing and the total wall thickness is about a 1/16th of an inch . Iíve actually poked my finger through the fiberglass while applying a coat of wax on my FG trailer .
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Old 12-25-2018, 06:21 PM   #18
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My wish would be for a fiberglass trailer that matched the quality of the fiberglass on a boat . Iíve seen fiberglass on trailers where the gel coat is thicker than the fiberglass backing and the total wall thickness is about a 1/16th of an inch . Iíve actually poked my finger through the fiberglass while applying a coat of wax on my FG trailer .

The problem then becomes weight. While a trailer built like my boat would be almost bulletproof it would also be one really heavy trailer.
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Old 12-25-2018, 06:45 PM   #19
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The problem then becomes weight. While a trailer built like my boat would be almost bulletproof it would also be one really heavy trailer.

But, you'd bust through those waves.
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Old 12-25-2018, 07:08 PM   #20
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The problem then becomes weight. While a trailer built like my boat would be almost bulletproof it would also be one really heavy trailer.
The added weight is only a problem if your vehicle is incapable of towing it .
I would rather have a slightly heavier trailer than spend my time patching holes in the fiberglass but to each their own .
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Old 12-25-2018, 07:40 PM   #21
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My wish would be for a fiberglass trailer that matched the quality of the fiberglass on a boat...
Steve, that would be an Oliver. The minimum thickness of most of its Fibergass is 3/8”, even the interior cabinets are that thick. The roof, including its added nidacore, is over 2” thick. This and the double hulls are the primary reasons for its weight being at least twice what most others weigh. But, as you stated, it’s only a problem if your vehicle is incapable of towing it.

As far as Parkliner goes, I stand by what I said three years ago...

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Old 12-25-2018, 09:12 PM   #22
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Steve, that would be an Oliver. The minimum thickness of most of its Fibergass is 3/8”, even the interior cabinets are that thick. The roof, including its added nidacore, is over 2” thick. This and the double hulls are the primary reasons for its weight being at least twice what most others weigh. But, as you stated, it’s only a problem if your vehicle is incapable of towing it.

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But that would cut out a lot of us who do not want to own a behemoth truck to tow our trailers. The Ricky and Lucy beds and the weight were the primary reason I did not want an Oliver. We did go up and tour the factory while we were researching what we wanted. Fit and finish wise the Oliver is a nice trailer. Just not what we wanted. Luckily there are more than one manufacture so most of us can find something we like. Back when we first started looking we did come very close to buying an Airstream. The dealer seeking an even larger sale then went into reasons we did not want the smaller Airstream and would be happier in a larger one he carried. Ended up doing us a favor by talking us out of the trailer. And the larger one would have needed a new truck to tow it. so it too was not on our list.
I apparently have weaker fingers as I have not poked through the walls on ours and so far I've had no problems with the parts of the trailer built by Escape. The items I have had problems with are used by most of the manufactures in the U.S..
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Old 12-29-2018, 11:49 AM   #23
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I was told they are moving the manufacturing plant to Indiana, and may start production back sometime mid next year.

There seems no prudent reason to dump their web site if they simply intend to move to a different manufacturing location.
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Old 12-29-2018, 12:32 PM   #24
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But that would cut out a lot of us who do not want to own a behemoth truck to tow our trailers. The Ricky and Lucy beds and the weight were the primary reason I did not want an Oliver. We did go up and tour the factory while we were researching what we wanted. Fit and finish wise the Oliver is a nice trailer. Just not what we wanted. Luckily there are more than one manufacture so most of us can find something we like. Back when we first started looking we did come very close to buying an Airstream. The dealer seeking an even larger sale then went into reasons we did not want the smaller Airstream and would be happier in a larger one he carried. Ended up doing us a favor by talking us out of the trailer. And the larger one would have needed a new truck to tow it. so it too was not on our list.
I apparently have weaker fingers as I have not poked through the walls on ours and so far I've had no problems with the parts of the trailer built by Escape. The items I have had problems with are used by most of the manufactures in the U.S..
What is a ďBehemothĒ truck ? Iíve seen several Olivers towed by standard size vehicles . If you wish to tow an Oliver with a Geo Metro then I could see a problem .
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I consider a full-size, half-ton, crew cab, short bed pickup "behemoth." They dwarf my 8-passenger Pilot, which I consider a "large" vehicle.

Many people obviously consider them "just right." For myself I considered our previous 2000 Sienna minivan "just right" for towing our 13' Scamp. Unfortunately the new ones are quite a bit larger.

It's all relative.
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Old 12-29-2018, 01:56 PM   #26
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I consider a full-size, half-ton, crew cab, short bed pickup "behemoth." They dwarf my 8-passenger Pilot, which I consider a "large" vehicle.

Many people obviously consider them "just right." For myself I considered our previous 2000 Sienna minivan "just right" for towing our 13' Scamp. Unfortunately the new ones are quite a bit larger.

It's all relative.
I saw a Ford truck the other day that might fit your definition
It was a Ford crew cab with an 8ft box
I thought it was larger than normal but it didn’t quite meet my definition of behemoth !
To me a mini van is exactly what the title implies “MINI” or “MINIATURE”
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Old 12-29-2018, 02:21 PM   #27
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At $49,900, if I remember right, I would rather opt for an Oliver. More RV for the $$.
When the Nest was about to be released we got on our local wait list for one, but when the price was announced, which was about $10K more than what we expected, we did not even preview one when available. Our Casita 17' SD does just fine considering how much more we would have to spend and what we would get.
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Old 12-29-2018, 04:19 PM   #28
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At $49,900, if I remember right, I would rather opt for an Oliver. More RV for the $$.
Around 30k is what I have seen. Here is a link to a few on RV trader: https://www.rvtrader.com/RVs/rvs-for...word=Parkliner

While I like some of the new look the RV Trader price is almost twice what we paid in 2014.
Iím happy
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