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Old 05-18-2006, 10:55 AM   #1
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News flash---Passports for Canadians going to the US has been delayed by the US legislators for a few years.Reason is getting system into place at a reasonable time limit.
Watch youe news for updates.
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Old 05-18-2006, 11:39 AM   #2
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Last Nights local news reported that starting in 2008, all US Citizens would need Passports to leave or enter the US via Canada/Mexico.

Or at least to get back into the US, Canada/Mexico, might not care if you have one going into their countries? But it would probably make it easier whatever direction you're headed.

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Old 05-18-2006, 11:44 AM   #3
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Yeah! And 6000 soldiers on the Mexican border. Is Canada next?
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Old 05-18-2006, 01:46 PM   #4
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We wouldn't dare put 6000 troops on the Canandian border, to many would defect.
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The last time we stationed troops on our border with Mexico was, I believe, in 1915. Among them were such luminaries as General John J. "Black Jack" Pershing of "Buffalo Soldier" fame, and a then-unknown lieutenant by the name of George Patton who distinguished himself by single-handedly killing the Captain of Francisco Villa's personal guard, "General Julio Carnenas".

That U.S. Army border force in 1915 was established to protect U.S. interests against border incursions by Mexican nationals. That ended in a U.S. expeditionary force invading 400 miles into Mexico in an unsuccessful "police action". Villa was never captured by U.S. troops.

I hope we're not repeating history. <sigh>

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Old 05-18-2006, 03:55 PM   #7
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Not funny. We have a pretty fine group of guys and gals in the armed forces who have volunteered to do more for their country than most Americans. They deserve better than stale jokes from draftee days.
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The last time we stationed troops on our border with Mexico was, I believe, in 1915. Among them were such luminaries as General John J. "Black Jack" Pershing of "Buffalo Soldier" fame, and a then-unknown lieutenant by the name of George Patton who distinguished himself by single-handedly killing the Captain of Francisco Villa's personal guard, "General Julio Carnenas".

That U.S. Army border force in 1915 was established to protect U.S. interests against border incursions by Mexican nationals. That ended in a U.S. expeditionary force invading 400 miles into Mexico in an unsuccessful "police action". Villa was never captured by U.S. troops.

I hope we're not repeating history. <sigh>

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And we had supplied Pancho Villa with most of his arms during the revolution, but then turned on him and decided to only support Carranza---made Pancho a little angry---interesting person, to some he was a Robin Hood, and to others he was a murderous villian. But, Pershing really had no business taking his troops into Mexico, but President Wilson also had Veracruz occupied on some shaky grounds.

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But, back to the original topic---passports. The US keeps changing the dates whereby passports will be required to return to the US. They are also considering doing some border passes for people who cross all the time and stay in the border areas. While we think it is easier to just have our passports, for some families, the cost of passports will hurt. In places like the Calexico/Mexicali, the border is very fluid with many people living on one side, and working on the other, and familes on both sides.


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And we had supplied Pancho Villa with most of his arms during the revolution, but then turned on him and decided to only support Carranza---made Pancho a little angry---interesting person, to some he was a Robin Hood, and to others he was a murderous villian. But, Pershing really had no business taking his troops into Mexico...
Diane: This is misleading. The "we" who supplied Villa was not the US government, but private "donors" - many of them victims of Villa's extortion. I don't believe the US government ever armed or supported Villa, so could not have "turned on him." It was Pershing's "business" to go into Mexico, on orders of his Commander-in-Chief after Villa had crossed the border and killed US troops and civilians. Some 'Robin Hood.'
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Diane: This is misleading. The "we" who supplied Villa was not the US government, but private "donors" - many of them victims of Villa's extortion. I don't believe the US government ever armed or supported Villa, so could not have "turned on him." It was Pershing's "business" to go into Mexico, on orders of his Commander-in-Chief after Villa had crossed the border and killed US troops and civilians. Some 'Robin Hood.'
Well, I guess we read different historians---enough said. Sorry if you were offended. It is all off topic anyway.

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No offense taken, Diane. I just like to keep the story straight. If you have any information that Villa was given arms by the US government, I'd really appreciate getting it. Everything I've read says otherwise.
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I thought this thread was about passports?
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Actually, Rick, it's about border crossings. We're just indulging in a little nostalgia about noted border crossings past.
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Old 05-19-2006, 12:40 AM   #14
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Read about it here:

http://web.nmsu.edu/~publhist/colhist.htm

Better yet, go visit Pancho Villa State Park in Columbus, New Mexico. Just don't do like we did and go in the summer

Don't hold your breath on the passport thing... 2008 is an election year.
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