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Old 06-24-2015, 01:17 PM   #1
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If you're not paying attention you may want to know the latest word from the UK's weather office.

UK MET Office: Fastest decline in solar activity since the last ice age (possibility of repeat of Maunder Minimum when it really got cold).

Ginny heard this and had one word to say "Florida".

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"The past few decades have been characterized by a period of relatively high solar activity. However, the recent prolonged solar minimum and subsequent weak solar cycle 24 have led to suggestions that the grand solar maximum may be at an end. Using past variations of solar activity measured by cosmogenic isotope abundance changes, analogue forecasts for possible future solar output have been calculated. An 8% chance of a return to Maunder Minimum-like conditions within the next 40 years was estimated in 2010 (ref. 2). The decline in solar activity has continued, to the time of writing, and is faster than any other such decline in the 9,300 years covered by the cosmogenic isotope data1. If this recent rate of decline is added to the analysis, the 8% probability estimate is now raised to between 15 and 20%."
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Old 06-24-2015, 01:29 PM   #2
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Wouldn't it be ironic if man made global warming saved us? : ) (No, I am NOT a science denier)....
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Old 06-24-2015, 02:50 PM   #3
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I have been telling my husband that I think the sun is burning out kind of like an electrical appliance that you know is nearing the end of its life. Kind of scary so I decided not to give it much thought. I observe nature a lot and their are messages there. Of course with the internet I end up researching my thoughts all too often.

We have lots of spiders here, no frogs and very rarely a snake. Only one mouse in 3 years. It is spooky. And, yes, I like all those things to some degree in the right places.
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Old 06-24-2015, 03:19 PM   #4
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Wouldn't it be ironic if man made global warming saved us? : ) (No, I am NOT a science denier)....

Ziggy,
The message is that the Sun does not put out a constant level of energy.

The Maunder Minimum mentioned was a period when the Sun had reduced output around the middle of the last century (1600) and the Earth became dramatically colder. The indicator, noticed by Maunder, was reduced sunspot activity. We have been in a period of reduced activity.

On the other hand when temperatures were climbing in the '90s we had an extremely active level of sun activity as witnessed by numerous sunspots.

Though some blame man, these changes in Sunspot cycles began long before we burned fossil fuels and will continue long after.

By Cathy P. "I have been telling my husband that I think the sun is burning out kind of like an electrical appliance that you know is nearing the end of its life. Kind of scary so I decided not to give it much thought. I observe nature a lot and their are messages there."

Cathy P.
The Sun is like everything else getting older but should well outlast us, maybe even outlast mankind. When global warming became big news I already knew that the world had experienced global warming, bigger than what we're experiencing, around the year 1000 when the Vikings farmed in Greenland and the UK was a wine producing region. Neither Greenland farming or the growing of grapes in the UK are presently in the cards.

We don't understand the process though there are a lot of ideas. Many people simply say it's the Sun... as the UK MET suggests. They are not the first to suggest this, the media hypes an increase of a few tenth's of a degree, but the reality is it hasn't got warmer for 18 years as measured by satellites.

The climate alternates regularly between hot and cold (ice ages) and has for a very longtime.

Have faith things will be OK. According to the pundits the Arctic was supposed to be completely flooded years ago as well the West Side Highway in NY was supposed to already be under water.

My thought is cold means a possibility of another bad winter and that effects camping... I may need thermopane windows in my Scamp....
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Old 06-24-2015, 03:24 PM   #5
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I may need thermopane windows in my Scamp....
That is a mod I would love to see. Not cheep, I expect.
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Old 06-24-2015, 03:29 PM   #6
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This is all really exciting news. I was worried that it might be going to get hotter this summer than it already is.
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Old 06-24-2015, 03:33 PM   #7
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Florida could use a little cooler summer temps for sure lol!
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Old 06-24-2015, 03:41 PM   #8
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All I know is it stinks on twenty, fifteen, and ten meters. 73'
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All I know is it stinks on twenty, fifteen, and ten meters. 73'
Gordon,
For those on the outside, what does that mean?
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Old 06-24-2015, 04:21 PM   #10
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LOL I was hoping to see if I would catch any hams with that bait.. it means that radio propagation in the amateur radio "HF" bands is bad now. (The meters are the wavelengths) Heck, I worked the world with 100 watt radio on a solar peak, then was off the air for years. Then last week I got another HF radio but it is about useless so far. 73 roughly means "Best regards."

PS Norm. I sent you a PM this morning.
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Old 06-24-2015, 04:22 PM   #11
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All I know is it stinks on twenty, fifteen, and ten meters. 73'
Ham radio bands, 14 mHz , 21 mHz, and 28 mHz (I think I remembar)
73,

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Wouldn't it be ironic if man made global warming saved us? : ) (No, I am NOT a science denier)....
But are you a science conformist?
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Paying attention?

So Norm,
What's your point?
Are you suggesting that everything is just fine?

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Ham radio bands, 14 mHz , 21 mHz, and 28 mHz (I think I remembar)

73,



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The good thing is that 7Mhz, 3.5Mhz, and 1.8Mhz are working great! Lol.


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