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Old 03-03-2016, 11:14 AM   #1
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Queen-size bed: Modifying a Scamp/Casita or buying something else.

My wife and I found that the 48" standard bed width in a Scamp was too narrow for us, and the wider 53" version in some deluxe Scamps is unlikely to be right, either. A queen size mattress is 60" wide, and I'm sure that would be fine. So, how to get there? We're new to this, and would like the option to hop back out of RVing if we're not getting a lot of use out of the trailer. I'd appreciate any recommendations. We do want a lightweight trailer with shower/pot. Options I've considered:
1) Buy a trailer with a wide enough bed (ParkLiner, Lil Snoozy--others?). Good: Once bought, we're ready to travel. Bad: These trailers are relatively few in number and hard to find. With ParkLiner's turbulent past/present, I'd be wondering about resale value if we decide to sell in a couple of years. None of these trailers is as well known as Scamp/Casita, and I'd guess that means they may take longer to sell.
2) Modify a 16' Scamp or Casita. I'm handy and wouldn't mind giving this a fling if the downside wasn't too scary (i.e. no danger of structural failure, and probably with a well-used trailer that needed other work anyway). Cut 12" out of the base of the closet, and modify the kitchen area similarly (brace roof, scoot base cabinet). Any thoughts on the practicality of this modification? Use deluxe (wood cabinets) or standard Scamp (FG cabinets)? Impact on resale value?
3) Buy a small, used, lightweight stick-built trailer: I know--uggh. But they come with available wider beds and more room generally than a 16'/17' FGRV, and often weigh about the same. They'll put up more resistance when towing, they'll leak earlier, and they'll depreciate faster. But if I get a used one (already took the big depreciation drop) that's still dry . . . I do have a place to store it inside.

Thoughts/barbs/other considerations are appreciated.
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Old 03-03-2016, 11:33 AM   #2
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I am not sure what the wait time is right now on a new LiL Snoozy. A used 2014 just sold for around 20 K. That is close to the purchase price. They usually sell within a week or two.
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:48 PM   #3
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Check out the 19' model. It has a queen size bed.

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Old 03-03-2016, 10:22 PM   #4
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I am not sure what the wait time is right now on a new LiL Snoozy. A used 2014 just sold for around 20 K. That is close to the purchase price. They usually sell within a week or two.
I'm hoping to get to see one sometime. The pictures look good and I like the floorplan. I don't know if lack of LP appliances would be an issue for us or not.

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Check out the 19' model. It has a queen size bed.
That would be roomy. But, I need a bumper-pull to go with our Honda Pilot.
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Old 03-03-2016, 10:27 PM   #5
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How about a Casita 16' or 17' Liberty Deluxe?
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Old 03-04-2016, 12:23 AM   #6
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Mark, if you do find that you need propane, a handy person like yourself could add it quite easily. Several Lil Snoozy's have been purchased and then sold later for close to what the purchase price was, so don't let resale scare you.
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Old 03-04-2016, 07:26 AM   #7
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That would be roomy. But, I need a bumper-pull to go with our Honda Pilot.
Not certain what your budget is, which can affect recommendations. Are you looking for used only, or would new be good too. Most used moulded fibreglass trailers hold their value quite well.

I towed an Escape 19 for over 6 years with my Honda Pilot. Fantastic trailer, and a full (80x60) queen bed.

Their other model with a full queen is the 5.0TA, which I am getting, but it is not a bumper pull. Do remember that just about any trailer, either new or used, will outlast any tow vehicle, and likely a few. If possible, first buying a trailer that suits your needs, and then a matching tow vehicle, will serve you best, though lots and lots of options for a 5,000 lb towing capacity.
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I have owned a number of FG units. In my previous 17ft Boler i made the kids bunk into a Adult bunk and i did the same in my present unit. I found old steel single bed frame and used it as a base. With proper securing it works great. We both sleep well, its something to consider. Beds always made.
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Old 03-04-2016, 11:39 AM   #9
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Have you checked out the new Casita 17' Independence? The two twins are 30" wide each and should make the bed wide enough joined together. I have friends who just got theirs and it is pretty nice!
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Old 03-05-2016, 01:53 PM   #10
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Not certain what your budget is, which can affect recommendations. Are you looking for used only, or would new be good too. Most used moulded fibreglass trailers hold their value quite well.

I towed an Escape 19 for over 6 years with my Honda Pilot. Fantastic trailer, and a full (80x60) queen bed.
That Escape 19' looks like a very good floorplan for our needs. Unfortunately, used ones don't come on the market as frequently here in the US as in Canada. Buying a new one, with the required sales taxes, would set us back a bit as far as recovering our outlay if we need to resell in short order. I'll keep my eyes peeled, thanks for the idea: it's a model I hadn't considered.

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Have you checked out the new Casita 17' Independence? The two twins are 30" wide each and should make the bed wide enough joined together.
Thanks, we're too lazy for that! When it's just the two of us, we'd prefer to leave the bed down, and with the Independence, that means there's no dinette/table.
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There is or was a 19' Escape for sale in Ohio. Not sure if sold.

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Old 03-22-2016, 10:46 AM   #12
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We have a 1984, 19' Scamp 5th wheel, and we turned the top queen mattress to run vertically instead of horizontally. We keep the 'bunk' in the up position, added a foam mattress from Hancock Fabrics, that was just the right size after I cut it to fit the curved wall-supports, and put a 'king mattress seam strip cover' from Bed Bath & Beyond where the two foams join. It make a perfect king! We do have to adapt the bed-making to allow for the curved wall supports, but at 6'+ tall, we had to have the extra leg-room! If we need, we just put the bunk 'away' with the foam on the bed, for company seating.
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If width is your only issue you could take the bed to 60" in a 13' or or larger. I considered it in our 13' footer but decided I'd rather have our fridge where the original closet was as I made a custom cabinet for it there. So the bed would have to use the closet area and kitchenette cabinet area opposite side and would reduce lower floor space considerably (but you gain storage area underneath) but it could be done, maybe not the easiest solutions however. YMMV
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I built a bed extension so our heads are under the big back window and feet between closet and sink.
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