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Old 07-31-2015, 08:49 AM   #1
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From another RV forum..........

"I'm in Europe right now, Denmark and Northern Germany, and I have been ever so tempted to take pictures of some of the tow combinations here. I've yet to see a single truck, even with the largest trailers. Yet, perhaps miraculously, the highway isn't littered with wrecks."
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Somehow I don't see the relationship... What's the context?
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Old 07-31-2015, 09:24 AM   #3
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Wait....
Maybe because Denmark's speed limit while towing is 50 mph and Germany's is also 50 MPH, unless you have a TUV inspection of your rig and a special license, in which case you can race along at about 60 MPH, has something to do with that..... Duh...


In that case it makes for a good argument to limit trailer towing to 55 MPH in all states.


I was in Idaho last month, with it's 80 MPH speed limit, and driving 55 MPH took a lot of rear view mirror driving.


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It is quite interesting to see what all is used for RVing in Europe. No monster motorhomes, not even large pickups to tow bigger trailers either. Even the larger models Escape is now making would be big over there.

I would imagine in time we will see more of a trend towards smaller RVs in North America too. I know a few friends with bigger units, that camp a fair bit, but don't travel longer distances, are looking to downsize to something like what we have when they retire, and want to travel more.

While in some cases there are merits to towing my trailer with my Ford F-350 diesel, I MUCH prefer the smaller Honda Pilot, even though it does not get great performance towing, it still does the job fine.
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Old 07-31-2015, 10:20 AM   #5
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Something to think about as you drive down the road.
Fact is that your chances of being in or causing an automobile accident increase with every mile per hour your speed is less than the flow of traffic. Driving at
55 MPH in traffic moving at 70 MPH increases your odds of being in a crash.
Strange fact is if you are moving just a little faster than the average flow of traffic your chances of being involved in a crash decrease!!
These facts are not published by our government agencies here in the U.S.A.


Not a bad idea to have a tow vehicle that is heavier than the travel trailer with some surplus power to spare.

Happy Safe Camping!
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(Clip) "Fact is that your chances of being in or causing an automobile accident increase with every mile per hour your speed is less than the flow of traffic. Driving at 55 MPH in traffic moving at 70 MPH increases your odds of being in a crash.
Strange fact is if you are moving just a little faster than the average flow of traffic your chances of being involved in a crash decrease!!"


Your suggestion runs contrary to common sense, exactly where is/was that statement published and by whom? And please don't quote a special interest group.
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Fact is that your chances of being in or causing an automobile accident increase with every mile per hour your speed is less than the flow of traffic.

Driving at 55 MPH in traffic moving at 70 MPH increases your odds of being in a crash.
It's interesting that 13 states have their speed limit set at 55 mph well below the general highway speed.

I recall that Ohio 'had' their semi speed limit at 55 as well.

Maybe we should follow the school bus approach and put a continuous strobe light on the rear of our trailer. Something different catches one's attention, as if the trailer's not enough.

Bob:

Review the Solomon Curve, which may be a tainted study. It's interesting to read.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_curve
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I don't think that we can legally do that in most states, but having nice bright tail lights and running lights is a good start. At night I see all to many RV's with tail lighting that looks like they must have a dead battery or are trying to effect the 1930's look in lighting, but it is usually just faulty wiring and connections.
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RE: Solomon Curve (Post #7)


Yep, it's interesting, but;
a) As mentioned it may have been "tainted",
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b) I too would be much more concerned with speed differential accidents if I was still driving those wonderful American vehicles of the 50's and 60's that had all the maneuverability, at speed especially, of a shipping barge. Wait... didn't we used to refer to them as "Barges". LOL


But, as you point out that at least 13 states still have the speed differentials, suggest that there hasn't been any real supporting evidence since that study(?)


Thank You for the link.
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Thank you Norm and Ginny for the additional and factual information.
Bob always gets his 2 cents in.....I counted on him to respond.

My facts came from an intensive special drivier training I had to attend when involved in law I forcement training as part of a U.S. Air Force assignment.
I found the facts interesting and wanted to share.

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We used to camp in a large motorhome. I always said camping with MPG in single digits only worked for a couple of types of trip.

Really short. Less than 50 miles to and from campground gas cost is insignificant factor. But going 100 plus miles each way? That starts to add a fair amount of expense to a weekend camping trip.

Long range for a long time. Driving 1,200 miles and spending 10 days or two weeks the benefits of the space and amenities and the cost savings from no motel and restaurant expense on road. Plus ability to drive or rest as desired to get there sooner made the gas cost worthwhile when averaged over the higher number of days spent parked.

Totally stunk for mid range 3 day weekend trip, slower driving means more road time, greater gas expense. Drive "up north" after work meant arriving at mid-night. Then burning most of the last day for the return trip. All at 8 mpg if there was a tail wind.

To a large extent it will depend on how the boomers decide to camp. Snow bird and able to stay for extended visit with kids and grandkids argues for larger rigs becoming more common. Holy expando Batman!

Travel and seeing the sights will push folks more toward modest size campers and tow vehicles. The 16 & 17 ft. models with maybe a few more amenities or layouts geared toward the full time adult couple. Grandpa and I are off to Burning Man, don't call we will be turning the phone off until it's over. No pockets in the birthday suit for the phone.
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Somehow I don't see the relationship... What's the context?
The author is not a fan of pick up trucks or large Suv's and tows his rather large trailer successfully with a pro set up Honda Mini Van.
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In 10-20 years Big Brother will solve this problem. Trucks and trailers in one lane at an electronically-governed towing speed and passenger vehicles in another lane also traveling at an electronically-governed speed. The traffic control computers will maintain safe vehicle separation in each lane. Passing is eliminated.

Tow rigs meet rigid specifications with periodic inspections and automatic weighings to make sure they can be safely driven at the predetermined speeds.

Fantasy?
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Private aviation has virtually dissappeared due to costs, mostly fuel, and my sense is if the current political mindset were to continue, RV-ing too would be fined and/or priced out of acceptance. How dare we consume more gas than our share just to go somewhere to toast s'mores?
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