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Old 10-23-2012, 06:33 PM   #15
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I don't want to make too much out of it but in my own rating scale of what's important the rivet caps would rate a "1" and the cracks would rate much higher.

Delaminated fg doesn't necessarily leak, but it can be damaged internally and just be structurally weaker than it should be.

The value of the trailer is reduced if the cracks are only "patched up" but still visible. An invisible repair can be done but to have a fg shop do it would be very pricey. I've done similar repairs but I've had lots of previous experience and even then, when you're aiming for a repair that won't be visible when its buffed, waxed and glossy, its time consuming. While I usually encourage people to DIY, this is one job that I wouldn't recommend unless the person is experienced with fg. If a repair that is invisible is important then I'd recommend you ask a fg shop for a ball park quote.

The area under "Trio" had very similar cracks after a nasty Mistral put me sideways into concrete quay. Despite having done lots of these types of repairs previously, it took me a week to repair the damage.

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Old 10-23-2012, 07:04 PM   #16
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LOL....ron, I read your post on my phone and had no idea what you were talking about....then I saw the pic and it makes a lot more sense....I had no idea what a trio a mistrel or a quay was....the pic helped!
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:40 PM   #17
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Seriously, he put it on a consignment lot and didn't clean the mouse turds out first? Wowser, guess he doesn't wanna sell it.


A hundred people have seen it and passed? hmmmmmm, that would be a warning flag to me. But I live where they sell pretty fast. Have you crawled under it and look to see how the frame looks? Any cracks under there?


I think everyone is right about the gel coat cracks, but dang seems excessive to me for a 4 year old trailer. And they can be fixed. But I wouldn't purchase without getting the price down to what your comfortable paying. Good Luck!
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:21 PM   #18
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They usually sell pretty fast here too...which makes me even more concerned...
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:41 PM   #19
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Whatever its physical defects, if 100 people have looked and passed, it must be grossly overpriced or have some other defect such as "no title" that's interfered with its sale.

How much is he asking for it?
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:19 PM   #20
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The value of the trailer is reduced if the cracks are only "patched up" but still visible. An invisible repair can be done but to have a fg shop do it would be very pricey. I've done similar repairs but I've had lots of previous experience and even then, when you're aiming for a repair that won't be visible when its buffed, waxed and glossy, its time consuming. While I usually encourage people to DIY, this is one job that I wouldn't recommend unless the person is experienced with fg. If a repair that is invisible is important then I'd recommend you ask a fg shop for a ball park quote.
If perfection is that important to you on the roof of your trailer. I do look at the roof of trailers when I buy them, I generally don't look at them much after that. Both of my trillium 4500's sag above the kitchen. I only noticed it on the trailer that we camp in when we were about to leave for BC. The trailer was parked so that I had a clear visual shot down the ridge. Other wise I never see it. I bet that half of the 4500's out there sag exactly the same. I still think they ROCK!

I know my mystery trailer, Launch Pad, sags exactly the same way, (among other flaws, see photo). Having never seen it, I asked my brother to take some pictures when he flew out there this summer. He said that this was the worst of it. My point is that repaired properly, but not perfectly would still work for me.

Nice boat though.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:43 PM   #21
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He is asking 7200...i had him down to 6600...so i do not think he is way out of line....
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:09 PM   #22
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After at least one winter is Sotaminna (?) Any cracks through the fiberglass will have left stains on the inside lining. Look for those, no stains = not too bad.

The caps also prevent deteriation of the rivet heads and leaks through the center hole of the pop-rivet. I have also found steel rivets in place that either the factory or a P.O. installed by mistake, needles to say, they were usually rusty.

SCAMP sells an entire kit based on model and/or you can buy them in bulk, including the longer rivets needed. Every SCAMP owner should have a pop-rivet tool as a standard item in ones tool box. (Along with the correct drills to drill out and replace old ones)
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:31 PM   #23
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He is asking 7200...i had him down to 6600...so i do not think he is way out of line....
If you can get it for 6600 that sounds pretty good. For peace of mind you could always send the picture to Scamp and see what they say about it. Leaving these campers outside all year will punish them with the Sun and of coarse snow load. I have always kept my campers in the barn when not in use, or at least for the winter. I do think that a dose of Capt Trolley would probably fix the stress cracks. Is this the Standard Scamp? What does it have in it ie. 3way fridge, furnace, etc. ? I have also found that most camper owners don't look on the roof unless they notice a problem from the inside.And I take it that's a 13' ?
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:41 PM   #24
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He is asking 7200...i had him down to 6600...so i do not think he is way out of line....
I looked back through the thread and don't see the size mentioned... is this a 16 footer, or a smaller model?

Also: Does it have electric brakes and a clear Title?
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:51 PM   #25
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Tim, it appears to be a pretty bare bones 13'. No fan or ac, no rear overhead bins, no furnace or it cant be seen in the photo, no awning, limited interior lighting. It does have the optional screen door though. Due to its age it will probable need some new tires and a battery if those have not been updated recently.

I think the problem is that no one can say without pulling back the rat fur what if any structural damage may be under where the gelcoat has cracked. It may be it happened due to snow load just last winter - what happens if it structurally damaged and it is subjected to the same snow load again? IMHO the price does seem fair assuming there is nothing else seriously wrong with the trailer and the seller has title. The price does seem to leave some room for the cost of repairing the roof although perhaps not enough, if the purchaser really wants the gelcoat repair to be totally invisible once done & not able to do much if any of the repair themselves.

I agree sending a photo of the damage to Scamp and asking them what they would charge to fix it might be a worth while doing, but have a hunch they might say they need to see it up close.
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It is a 13' and i think it was the options package.....no brakes and i believe the title is clear......
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:53 PM   #27
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I sent the photo to scamp yesterday and have not heard back from them yet...
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Photo to SCAMP

SCAMP is somewhat notorious for not replying to emails. Give them a call and ask if they have seen the pic, be at the ready to send it again while you are on the phone.
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