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01-24-2016, 05:35 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jen
Trailer: 1980 13 ft. burro
Pennsylvania
Posts: 852
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regarding oak interiors
What is your taste in FGRV woodwork? Snowed in this weekend by Snowzilla, I've been poking around window shopping for my next trailer (a five to ten year plan) and I'm a little amazed that the wondrous Escape uses oak, which reminds me of my family's dining room in the 1980s.
Scamp at least offers a birch option.
Isn't oak one of the heaviest of the woods? To me it's like putting a real granite kitchen countertop in a travel trailer - a pointless increase in overall weight. I hope Escape decides to diversify their wood choices in the next decade because I really like them otherwise!
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01-24-2016, 05:43 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,963
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It's not solid oak- mostly veneered.
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01-24-2016, 05:45 PM
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Senior Member
Name: jen
Trailer: 1980 13 ft. burro
Pennsylvania
Posts: 852
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon in AZ
It's not solid oak- mostly veneered.
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Oh, that's good to know - makes a lot more sense. Though I'm afraid oak-look still is so weirdly antiquated.
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01-24-2016, 05:51 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,963
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So are a lot of trailer buyers...
Did you see the used Scamp for sale in CA with walnut cabinet doors? Don't know if it's really walnut or just walnut stained, but it sure looks sharp against the white fiberglass with stainless steel accents.
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01-24-2016, 06:16 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
Posts: 25,711
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All themes and wood cabinetry in homes is cyclical.
I don't even notice the oak in Ten Forward. Only the cabinet doors are solid oak, the walls are a printed look veneer (to save weight). Bigfoot has used walnut and cherry and I find those to be dark. If I had my druthers, I would prefer a white pickled oak. But with my fabric choice, Formica color of my choosing, throw rugs and throw pillows... the cabinetry is secondary.
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Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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01-24-2016, 06:24 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Scamp 16 ft
Posts: 353
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Amish made Cherry
I our previous 2011 Scamp 13 standard we had Amish made cherry cabinet doors and solid table.
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/m...lbums1226.html
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01-24-2016, 06:56 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Frederick / Janis
Trailer: Previously Scamp 13 2002,2016. Scamp 16 on order
Michigan
Posts: 291
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The MDF boards used, with or without real oak/birch trims are themselves VERY heavy. Lifting or lowering an MDF board for a dinette is similar to weight training at the gym. There is so much MDF induced weight injected into these FGRVs. While Scamp's "deluxe" appears to have nice wood (and it does) so much of it, largely the panels, are still MDF. The interior hatch covers too. It all adds up.
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01-24-2016, 10:00 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Dave
Trailer: Casita SD17 2006 "Missing Link"
California
Posts: 3,738
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jen b
Oh, that's good to know - makes a lot more sense. Though I'm afraid oak-look still is so weirdly antiquated.
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Trends come and go to everything but any kind of real wood is a thing of beauty to a woodworker. Certain woods work better than others for the theme you're going for.
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01-25-2016, 09:52 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Tap
Trailer: 2015 17' Casita Independence, 2010 Escape 19’
Florida
Posts: 118
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I love oak.
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01-25-2016, 09:58 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2002 19 ft Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel
Posts: 3,640
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The oak doors in The Scamp we owned came unglued.
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01-25-2016, 10:04 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Tim
Trailer: '88 Scamp 16, layout 4
North Florida
Posts: 1,547
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TappyGee
I love oak.
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Me too. With the right stain it is a nice warm color that is not too dark. If I ever get around to setting my woodworking equipment up where I can properly make some cabinet doors I will probably use Oak. Although I have quite a bit of Hard Rock Maple on hand. There is not enough wood in all the cabinet doors to make a lot of difference weight wise. And some nice panel doors shouldn't really be any heavier than the original plywood.
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01-25-2016, 10:08 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,963
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Timber Wolf
Me too. With the right stain it is a nice warm color that is not too dark. If I ever get around to setting my woodworking equipment up where I can properly make some cabinet doors I will probably use Oak. Although I have quite a bit of Hard Rock Maple on hand. There is not enough wood in all the cabinet doors to make a lot of difference weight wise. And some nice panel doors shouldn't really be any heavier than the original plywood.
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That's one of the reasons I love the fiberglass interiors. Doors are an easy sway, and you can have any look you want.
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01-25-2016, 10:14 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Steve
Trailer: 2018, 21ft escape— 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie
NW Wisconsin
Posts: 4,500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darwin Maring
The oak doors in The Scamp we owned came unglued.
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I would venture the guess that the problem with your oak doors is due more to the type of material used / construction method and the glue used to assemble the cabinets / doors than the type of wood used (oak , Ash ,cherry hickory etc.). I built 40 ft of oak / ash cabinets 5 Years ago using Titebond II glue. The doors are glued and doweled and have been subject to temps from 30 below to 100 deg and none of the doors have deteriorated.
I have never had good luck with veneered MDF holding up to humidity and large temperature changes.
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01-25-2016, 10:31 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Dennis
Trailer: Scamp
Minnesota
Posts: 409
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve dunham
I would venture the guess that the problem with your oak doors is due more to the type of material used / construction method and the glue used to assemble the cabinets / doors than the type of wood used (oak , Ash ,cherry hickory etc.). I built 40 ft of oak / ash cabinets 5 Years ago using Titebond II glue. The doors are glued and doweled and have been subject to temps from 30 below to 100 deg and none of the doors have deteriorated.
I have never had good luck with veneered MDF holding up to humidity and large temperature changes.
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I replaced all of the MDF doors in our Scamp with paneled doors of cherry. Since I use Titebond II for all of my woodworking, that is what I used for these doors. I found that the new solid Cherry doors are in fact, lighter in weight than the original vinyl clad MDF.
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01-25-2016, 10:42 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Gabi&Wolf
Trailer: Escape 15 A
Alberta
Posts: 156
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We like the look of the oak in our Escape , it's light and oak is a good hard durable wood that can take a fair bit of wear . Love cherry but I think the cost would go up considerably and wear and tear would be more noticeable . Maple or birch.....natural they get pretty yellow over time ( especially birch - which is often used in place of or passed off as maple ) .... Painted wood ...something I wood do if it were very worn out looking . Foil coated doors ...hmm ..that's just MDF or HDF .....no thanks ....( MDF is heavier ) . Everything ETI uses is really well thought out and cleanly put together . It is easy enough to add " fluff stuff" to dress up and personalize ..... Yup we really like our Escape with the light Oak !
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01-25-2016, 11:00 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Bill
Trailer: Burro 1983 13'
Wisconsin
Posts: 141
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I was buying some lumber for a project a few days ago and as I was lifting some fairly small pieces thought how heavy the campers are with full wood trim. Granted I love wood and they look great but that weight thing. I did replace all my doors with birch wish I could afford birds eye maple! Love that stuff.
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01-25-2016, 11:21 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Charlie
Trailer: 2014 Lil Snoozy
North Carolina
Posts: 789
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Our LiL Snoozy has light oak cabinetry. There is no MDF or particle board in this trailer. it is all solid oak or oak plywood.
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01-25-2016, 01:37 PM
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Member
Name: Martin
Trailer: 1993 CASITA 16SD
Texas
Posts: 82
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The red oak stile-and-rail doors I made for my Casita weigh less than half the weight of the OEM composite.
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01-25-2016, 07:22 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 16 ft Scamp Side Dinette
Posts: 310
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I like all species of real wood, but dislike mdf. The fake oak-look mdf doors in our Scamp are still there only because they are in excellent shape and I have about 700 other projects!
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01-25-2016, 09:32 PM
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Member
Name: Thomas
Trailer: 22' Home Built
Ohio
Posts: 49
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For me(and this is just me) I think hickory with a clear or "cider" finish is the most beautiful. The lighter tones and varying hues just looks so good. But I haven't seen it done in a trailer. We re-did a bathroom in Hickory in our present home and a complete kitchen in our last home and never tired of it. It appears more natural (and expensive) to my eye.
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