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Old 05-06-2015, 10:53 AM   #29
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On PERFECTION??? I have a list of enough objections to know that Scamp is NOT perfect and we all know that no RV is. I think the Oliver would come close. But you WILL pay for it.

I feel the ONLY reason they're starting to change is they're finally looking outside their window at Backus to realize the competition is picking up.. "Happier Camper"? I believe to be the latest.

Unsatisfied customer? How about the one that just picked their new Scamp up only to realize it doesnt have a front window in the bath anymore??? AND they werent told? I would not want my bath without it. The vent should have been an option to ADD not substitute the window out. But, I heard they cant get that window anymore which also means they wont be putting it over the stove area as well I guess.

Have they hinted at LEAST to changing their ugly red stripe??? I had them to put "Scamp" on there but leave off that VERY dated "racing stripe" And a BLACK propane tank??? What is wrong with those people?? Typical Scamp.

Others have stated less emphatically than I that Scamp is WAYYY behind times in making some very much-needed changes both physically and aesthetically to their trailers.
I've got $500 dollars if you want to sell that POS Scamp of yours.
I might feel guilty, but I'm sure that I could find someone who knows quality and value when they see it, allowing me a VERY tidy profit which would be a VERY large percentage of your original purchase price.


I can just see your Ad (on line of course) when you decide to replace your Scamp...

For Sale:
Ugly, obsolete, poorly constructed, ten year old camper, built by "Luddite Corporation"
I have tolerated this piece of junk long enough, please come and take it off my hands...
HURRY, it won't last long at only 90 percent of its original purchase price!
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Old 05-06-2015, 10:58 AM   #30
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Happier Camper will start at, what... over $13K, and you get... an empty shell. Scamp starts at, what... about $11K, and you get... beds for 4, stove, sink, hand pump water system, icebox, 12V & 120V electrical systems. Standard.

Scamp may be far from perfection (whatever that means to you), but no one else offers their value-for-price in the entry-level market.

Nothing against Happier Camper. I am enjoying the renaissance in molded fiberglass design and manufacturing. There is room for all of them.
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:08 AM   #31
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Yeah...we've had this conversation before. But it would require another $12K for the man-hours I have in it "perfecting" it. Nice try but no sale.

NO rv is "perfect". Yours either...or you wouldnt have replaced the door seal twice, undercoated the bottom to protect the wood, changed out the door latch (a mod you never mentioned but I noticed) and those are the quick things I remember off the top of my head.

I think the greater concern lies within customer service more than the Scamp. I think someone just mentioned "weird" in comparison to Casita. THAT is what I have the most problem with.

POS? That's not what you call my Scamp in person....quite the opposite in fact!

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I've got $500 dollars if you want to sell that POS Scamp of yours.
I might feel guilty, but I'm sure that I could find someone who knows quality and value when they see it, allowing me a VERY tidy profit which would be a VERY large percentage of your original purchase price.
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:22 AM   #32
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Steve,

I like many Scamp owners have been to the factory. It is small and darn few employees. I'm certain when the part's manager is out it's an issue...it goes with small.

I don't see a problem.. they were honest.

We went there for scheduled service on our 1991 Scamp, they were ready and accomplished it in short order. I found a visit very interesting, they virtually let me have an unfettered view of everything in the plant.
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:30 AM   #33
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Small with personal service means you get to experience the "person" giving you the service, as opposed to the company policy on how these things are done.

I had a heck of a time reaching parts department with a question, they said he was on vacation. Eventually it got passed off to someone else to answer my question, they called and I was talking to the owner to determine what size rivets my 35 year old camper used. Yes he looked them up so I could order the right assortment of $4 rivets.

They may not be perfect or "precise and proper" in all things but helping me order the right parts for a camper they made 35 years ago qualifies as standing behind your product in my book.

I believe an earlier post stated that they were getting more orders than they can fill and would increase production by 50% if they could get the help. Sounds like an epic fail... NOT.
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:34 AM   #34
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The one I've found most knowledgeable AND helpful at Scamp for tech support is the gentleman named "Dave". He's the production manager. If someone asks about calling Scamp, I quickly divert them to Dave if he's available. Kent and the salesmen? No.
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:48 AM   #35
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POS? That's not what you call my Scamp in person....quite the opposite in fact!
Of course not, and that's not what I called it here. That was merely a sarcastic response to what you constantly call it... as well as all Scamps.

What I said earlier was...
"It is ,of course, difficult to improve on perfection, or to break a stereotype."

Notice the word "or" in the text, leaving the reader to surmise which was needed if either.

I seldom buy anything and leave it unmodified, I started with the door gasket on my Scamp right after purchase, eventually resulting in a real improvement for every Scamp owner. Generally though my mods are elective, designed to better suit my tastes and needs.

I bought a "perfect" 1995 Mustang GT convertible a couple of weeks ago and have already spent a thousand dollars on modifications intended to conform it to the imperfect tastes and habits of its new owner.
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:50 AM   #36
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This is fun. I've seen the same conversations on the Casita Forum and it's neat seeing them again for Scamps.

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Old 05-06-2015, 11:53 AM   #37
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This is in response to my comment on Scamp and Norm & Ginny's response:
I'd love to visit the factory and hope to do so eventually, maybe late this summer. If I didn't live so far away, in So. Calif. it would be easier to go there.

In response to other posts to my comments I agree this is not a big problem and they are honest.

My worry is that if they were to go out of business where would one get repair parts from?
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Old 05-06-2015, 11:57 AM   #38
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Nahhh... You know overall I enjoy my Scamp. Ummm...who's the one at rallies always shining on it and "de-bugging"!?? It seems Scamp is making an effort to make notable changes...finally....which is good.

AND, it sureeee is fun to get you going.

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Of course not, and that's not what I called it here. That was merely a sarcastic response to what you constantly call it... as well as all Scamps.
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This is in response to my comment on Scamp and Norm & Ginny's response:
I'd love to visit the factory and hope to do so eventually, maybe late this summer. If I didn't live so far away, in So. Calif. it would be easier to go there.

In response to other posts to my comments I agree this is not a big problem and they are honest.

My worry is that if they were to go out of business where would one get repair parts from?
There is really very little which would require the manufacturer as a source for much of anything, especially since most major components are outsourced anyway.
I just sold a fifty year old Ford Falcon, no part of which has been available from Ford for decades. I am now stuck with enough parts to keep it running for another fifty years and my parts store can still get almost any part from the aftermarket with a 24 hour notice.
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Old 05-06-2015, 12:41 PM   #41
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As the owner of a new to me 1988 Scamp, I find this whole conversation amusing. I called Scamp and talked to a nice gentleman who took my parts order and CC and answered a few questions and my parts showed up via UPS about a week later. The world is becoming spoiled by Amazon Prime and instant gratification. Go back 20 years and if you got the service Scamp gives you you would be raving about it.

One thing I will say is that RVs in general are so poorly constructed I am shocked. As someone who has come from a sailing background, I find most of the RVs I've looked at to be the RV equivalent of something bought at Value City Furniture. I went to my local Camping World (nobody ever heard of a Scamp) and I toured behemoth rigs that I'll bet their owners groups are complaining about. Just horrible construction.

So while I find a few things about my 27 year old scamp to be kind of iffy, its been going for 27 years! And when I'm done rehabbing it, I'm sure it will go another 27. Switching to LED bulbs? 20 bucks. getting rid of rivets? Well OK, but mine are still working. I think Scamp has a great product and hope they don't change a thing.

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That's what makes most of us life-long fans of fiberglass trailers, regardless of the brand. As I said elsewhere, I've now had two Casitas, a Parkliner, and a Bigfoot. Any other moves will only be to another fiberglass.

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