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Old 10-02-2006, 10:02 PM   #1
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US News & World Report Article
Money & Business section.
It says that there is an RV glut out there.
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Old 10-02-2006, 10:17 PM   #2
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US News & World Report Article
Money & Business section.
It says that there is an RV glut out there.
Hi: Yup the old gas guzzeling heavy weight contenders...But not "EGGS" they arn't "a dime a dozen" Alf S. North shore of Lake Erie
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Old 10-02-2006, 10:26 PM   #3
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Fred,
I suspect the glut is not of FGRV's, but of large motor homes and toy boxes. Actually, the demand for FGRV's may increase even though gas prices are down at least until after the elections.
The article does generate food for thought.
We're just glad we don't have a larger share of the gross nat'l product.
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Old 10-03-2006, 04:33 PM   #5
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Fred,

I have had camping neighbors at two different camp grounds want to know where to get an egg. Their "monsters" were cramping how far and how often they could go camping. Getting way too expensive. After the 3 minute tour, one even asked if The Brown Egg was for sale.

It feels great to have something so usefull, economical, and enjoyable.
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Old 10-03-2006, 04:56 PM   #6
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Our next door neighbors recently purchased a 5th wheeler. They said they were looking for about a 24 foot. Well, they came home with their new RV - a 5th wheeler alright but it is about 28 feet or longer.

It has central vacuuming...a super dining room, comfortable chairs, a room for their two daughters and friends in the rear, and a separate beautiful queen size bedroom up a few steps in the front. Two slide outs that prevent them from cleaning the dining area and kitchen while parked in their yard. Opening them in the narrow driveway doesn't work. So if they want to vaccuum or clean after a trip, they hook up - pull it down the street to a friends house - and use their driveway for cleaning their RV. Then pull it back into their driveway.

Oh yes, that sure looks like something we would want to do.

It's the Casita for us...
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Old 10-03-2006, 07:41 PM   #7
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Who ever said bigger is better? I want efficiency and ability to get into the small remote spots. Is why I am searching for one. I miss my truck camper for that too.
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Thank you for noticing that! I laughed so hard when I first read that, I frightened the cat!
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Keep an eye on them Carol. I know so many people who have purchased large trailers or motorhomes and never use them because it's just too much work. Look at how often this group uses their eggs compared to even some of the "smaller" (25 ft) ones. We think nothing about hitching up for an overnighter, but friends of ours have a 27 footer and it's just too much work, gas, effort, time, etc, etc, etc. Plus, they almost always need to stay where there are hookups so that they can function. It's a tough life out there!
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Keep an eye on them Carol. I know so many people who have purchased large trailers or motorhomes and never use them because it's just too much work. Look at how often this group uses their eggs compared to even some of the "smaller" (25 ft) ones. We think nothing about hitching up for an overnighter, but friends of ours have a 27 footer and it's just too much work, gas, effort, time, etc, etc, etc. Plus, they almost always need to stay where there are hookups so that they can function. It's a tough life out there!
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I this is quite true.
I've had my Scamp less than 10 months. In that time we've made 18 trips, and spent 34 nights in it. The first trip was News Years Eve. There's another trip scheduled in a little over a week. Probably be one or two more before we've had it a year.

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Old 10-04-2006, 05:45 PM   #11
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One very great thing about having a Casita is the turn-around time in getting the trailer ready for another trip. It takes only a little time to clean up our Casita, wash it, wax the front, restock it, and get going on our next trip!

I was talking to a guy I know who owns a 28-foot travel trailer (not a fifth wheel) and pulls it with a big V-8 pickup. He can't afford to take it out much anymore. Gas had become way too expensive (and if you think the lower gas prices are anything more than a quick gimmick, you're in for a rude surprise). Like me, he enjoys hitting the mountains, and he would just get sick watching the gas needle literally plunge before his eyes as he pulled his trailer up the steep grades. Oy!
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Bob... I know I've shared this several times before, but the cost of pulling a trailer... ANY size trailer behind a reasonably sized tow vehicle doesn't cost significantly more for most vehicles than making the same trip without the trailer. Obviously, if you can't afford to make the trip (with or without a trailer), then you can't afford it, but I find it pretty difficult to believe that you can't afford to pull your trailer if you can afford the trip.

With my 17' Bigfoot behind my '02 Tundra 6 cyl, I average 13-14mpg (18 mpg unladen). With my 17' Bigfoot behind my '00 Excursion 6.8l V10 on the round trip to the Black Hills last month, I averaged about 13 mpg (16 mpg unladen). With the 34' Airstream behind the Excursion, I used to get 9-10 mpg. With the 25' Bigfoot behind the Excursion returning from Chicago, I got about 12 mpg.

The average loss is around 5mpg towing. On a one hundred fifty mile round trip at 15mpg unladen, that would translate to about 10 gallons, or 15 gallons at 10 mpg pulling a trailer. At $3 a gallon, that's $30 v. $45 for the round trip, or only an additional $15 for the entire trip pulling the trailer, or less than the cost of one night's camping at many campgrounds. Folks spend $7 for hamburgers and $5 for coffee. $2 gas cuts those costs by 1/3.

I really think that the gas prices are really more of an excuse or mental hurdle for folks who own RVs and want to get out than a real budget killer. Most trailer owners probably tow our trailers less than 2000 miles a year (there are exceptions, many of them own fiberglass RVs of course) but I suspect that's about the norm... so you figure the annual costs for that kind of towing!

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Bob... I know I've shared this several times before, but the cost of pulling a trailer... ANY size trailer behind a reasonably sized tow vehicle doesn't cost significantly more for most vehicles than making the same trip without the trailer. Obviously, if you can't afford to make the trip (with or without a trailer), then you can't afford it, but I find it pretty difficult to believe that you can't afford to pull your trailer if you can afford the trip.

With my 17' Bigfoot behind my '02 Tundra 6 cyl, I average 13-14mpg (18 mpg unladen). With my 17' Bigfoot behind my '00 Excursion 6.8l V10 on the round trip to the Black Hills last month, I averaged about 13 mpg (16 mpg unladen). With the 34' Airstream behind the Excursion, I used to get 9-10 mpg. With the 25' Bigfoot behind the Excursion returning from Chicago, I got about 12 mpg.

The average loss is around 5mpg towing. On a one hundred fifty mile round trip at 15mpg unladen, that would translate to about 10 gallons, or 15 gallons at 10 mpg pulling a trailer. At $3 a gallon, that's $30 v. $45 for the round trip, or only an additional $15 for the entire trip pulling the trailer, or less than the cost of one night's camping at many campgrounds. Folks spend $7 for hamburgers and $5 for coffee. $2 gas cuts those costs by 1/3.

I really think that the gas prices are really more of an excuse or mental hurdle for folks who own RVs and want to get out than a real budget killer. Most trailer owners probably tow our trailers less than 2000 miles a year (there are exceptions, many of them own fiberglass RVs of course) but I suspect that's about the norm... so you figure the annual costs for that kind of towing!

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I see what you're saying, but....

I met a couple on a camping trip that have a 32' trailer. Towing that with his truck they less than 10mpg. For arguments sake let's just 10mpg. They're planing a trip to Yellow Stone next summer. A bit over 2,000 miles round trip, we'll say 2,000. They're going to drive their car instead of the truck, estimate at least 20mpg on car. To take the trailer would be double the gas cost. At $2.50 per gallon, $250 with the car, $500 with truck and trailer.

There are situations where it does make a difference.
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<<<<YellowStone next summer. A bit over 2,000 miles round trip, we'll say 2,000. They're going to drive their car instead of the truck, estimate at least 20mpg on car. To take the trailer would be double the gas cost. At $2.50 per gallon, $250 with the car, $500 with truck and trailer.>>>>

But after they have had the expense of motels, and all the hassle of packing, unpacking, hauling luggage around, you bet they will wish they had taken their trailer, and their OWN BED.
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