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Old 01-20-2018, 09:41 AM   #1
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Hi All.
Wanted to ask a question on camping in National, State and County Park Campgrounds.
We are leaving Mexico soon after a wonderful three months and are returning to the US for a while before heading back to Canada.
With the Federal Government problems a lot of folks have expressed concern about certain essential services being compromised. It made me think that in a lot of government parks lately there has not been a visible presence of Rangers, Police and even the Hosts which normally are around to keep an eye on things.
We have seen an increasing number of homeless and sketchy people in a lot of these Campgrounds and are concerned that crime may increase without proper security.
We really like these parks and prefer them but in the last year have seen a huge increase in junky and cluttered campsites along with living in cars and loud and inappropriate behaviour. We have been afraid that because we don’t want or possess any kind of weapons that we could be vulnerable to gun violence. We are always mindful of our surroundings and will avoid uncomfortable situations but when you are camping and that site is your home, what do you do?
It just seems that with cutbacks increasing, safety is at risk.
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Old 01-20-2018, 09:53 AM   #2
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we tent camped for 41 years not one time in any campground fed state or whatever did we feel threatened that includes camping in Canada in sort of roadside parks by roadways by ourselves I thought they were amazing by the way.

frankly we have never seen much in the way of any patrolling by anyone in any park.

I just don't think you need to worry

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Old 01-20-2018, 10:05 AM   #3
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To what cutbacks are you referring?
Three months in Mexico and you worry about our parks?
Try Yogi Bear's Jellystone Campgrounds, the ranger is incompetent but he does his best! They are nice safe campgrounds unless you are afraid of bears!
You might loose a pic-a-nic basket or two (or get a Boo Boo) but you should make it home alright!

Come north through the Midwest and sleep in heavenly peace in our clean and secure parks.

Unfounded worry won't fix tomorrow, it will just ruin today.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:11 AM   #4
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We have camped in all kinds of campgrounds and boondocking in the west for over 50 years and have never encountered a dangerous situation with people, any uncomfortable situation was near towns but they were minor. Most Campground now have hosts or managers that oversee everything.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:28 AM   #5
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Mainly desert Southwest not entire country by any means.

We had friends who just emailed us about a Riverside County Park Campground. We have all been going there for years but they have eliminated security and patrols. Cutbacks I would imagine.
Supposedly gate hours for access but these folks left at 2:30 in the morning. A number of vehicles came in. Heavy drinking and target shooting at cans etc. There were no hosts, Rangers or staff on duty. They were given a “In Case Of Emergency” card when they checked in. They called the number and it went to the Riverside County Sheriffs Dept. They were told “We are very busy and can’t make it out for 2-2 /2 hours. “If you feel endangered, you should leave the area immediately”.
In October, we were at an Arizona State Park near Tucson and there was an incident one night. Heavy Police presence with four cars. This park has no staff on duty after 6pm but have hosts on duty.
The next day I asked the hosts what was going on. They had no idea and didn’t even know the police were in the Campground!
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Hmmm... Wild West, eh?

We camp regularly in Arizona's state and county parks and have never felt threatened. I have seen trashy camps and questionable occupants while driving through boondocking areas, but we only camp in developed campgrounds with restroom facilities.

In the unlikely event of an incident, I can see response times being slow, so the advice given about leaving if you don't feel safe is wise.

We had a bicycle stolen 3 years ago at a CA state beach. In that case, response time by ranger staff was about 30 minutes for a non-violent situation (not that there was much they could do other than take a report).

You're much more likely to be injured or killed on our highways than our campgrounds.

Do what you feel comfortable with, but I'm not cancelling my reservation for Lost Dutchman State Park in March.
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I hear you Jon.
We were in Usery Mountain last winter and across from our site was a man camping by himself. My wife and I always noticed him looking at us for long periods of time.
He was on his own and tenting it. He would be in his tent singing at the top of his lungs for hours. Can handle it during the day but after 12:30am a little hard to take.
I went to the hosts who were fantastic! They said they were not permitted to intervene in these things but got on the phone with Maricopa Sheriffs. In under ten minutes the singing ended and the lone camper was gone at daybreak.

We are very wary of “lone campers”.
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The State of Wisconsin cut out all the funding for state parks, layed off Rangers and Park staff plus cut funding to local law enforcement . The State wanted local law enforcement to patrol the parks in place of the laid off Rangers. The counties said no , saying they did not have the funds to do there assigned duties plus additional duties .
So now one of our favorite State Parks is self registration ' and only has park staff during the day on Monday to Friday during the Summer plus no nightly patrols . Guess what , the park has now turned into party central for the local kids and the park facilities are slowly but surely going to HELL. When sometime in the future it is totally destroyed we can sell it to a private developer for 10 cents on the dollar
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no problems in US Gov't campgrounds today. Because of no solution to the budget, Federal campgrounds are closed. We left a COE campground today because of that.
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We are very wary of “lone campers”.
As a solo camper, this sort of thing makes me sad.
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First, we are responsible for our own safety. As others mentioned, when seconds count, police are minutes (many minutes) away. We can do things to make us less vulnerable. Some women travelling alone set out two camp chairs and place a pair of large men's boots outside their door. A men's flannel shirt or whatever is in season is a nice touch. Don't have signs or decals that suggest you are alone. A dog can serve several functions. Is all this sexist? You bet, sweetheart!
Back to you specifically, it is your choice not to carry a gun, where legal. Why someone wouldn't carry a knife on their belt, or bear spray is beyond me. Check out Wasp spray. It shoots a 20' stream.
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I was thinking about this last night. What would I do if I heard a burglar in the house? I thought about the knife in my beside drawer and came to the conclusion that if I was using it for defense, the much younger perp would disarm me instantly and then use it on me.
My Maasai spear, on the other hand . .
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Hmmm... Wild West, eh?

We camp regularly in Arizona's state and county parks and have never felt threatened. I have seen trashy camps and questionable occupants while driving through boondocking areas, but we only camp in developed campgrounds with restroom facilities.

In the unlikely event of an incident, I can see response times being slow, so the advice given about leaving if you don't feel safe is wise.

We had a bicycle stolen 3 years ago at a CA state beach. In that case, response time by ranger staff was about 30 minutes for a non-violent situation (not that there was much they could do other than take a report).

You're much more likely to be injured or killed on our highways than our campgrounds.

Do what you feel comfortable with, but I'm not cancelling my reservation for Lost Dutchman State Park in March.
You are so right Jon, if your gonna sleep in the road at least make it some back country road.
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When I take time off from work for vacation I prefer to take my Harley and tent if the weather allows. I am, for the most part a lone wolf(not really a wolf) but am not intimidating, actually friendly if approached, so I hope you're not stereotyping all solo campers. As usual it only takes one to ruin it for everybody else. Happy camping to all!
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