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Old 11-16-2015, 07:09 AM   #29
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Really hard to say, since after 15 years, condition is the single greatest factor in resale value,
You said a mouthful there, Jon. This trumps about everything.
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Old 11-16-2015, 08:19 AM   #30
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I'm curious, Frederick... Since you already have a trailer- why are you thinking of another? Guessing it is the larger bed?

My advice would be to use the one you have for at least one season. There may other things besides just the bed that turn out to be not right for you. As an accommodation to the small bed, you can try sleeping head-to-toe, or one of you can take the front sofa. There's nothing to stop you from continuing to shop the used market for a deluxe or a large-bed standard. But you may find, as others have, that actual experience leads you to a different model.

Meantime, if you want a front dinette, go ahead and do the mod. Nicely done, it should help the resale value, especially if you preserve the bunk function, as in this example:

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Old 11-16-2015, 08:36 AM   #31
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Jon, first, we'd like to move up to a late model, or even a new unit. The latter option only being exercised if we run out of patience searching for an ideal, late model used one.

Of course, what you described is essentially our plan. We fully intend to use what we have right now for this winter's trip upcoming. Too late in the process to change horses now. But we have camped and RV'd for four decades using stick builts, pop-ups, truck campers and lordy, lordy, even tents so we've a pretty good grasp of things I think.

The 2002 we did find required considerable man hours of restorative work. To be honest, we're getting too old for that kind of thing all the time. :-)

These photos will spare you the gory deails of floor rot/repair, etc, but it came together quite nicely and will serve us this winter, anyhow. We also replaced fabric, all cabinet faces with red oak plywood, re-wired a ton of stuff, sewed and re-upholstered, repainted, and well, you name it. Still have a bunch of rivets to repair/replace.
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:02 AM   #32
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Jon, yours is a beautiful piece of work. Well done indeed.
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:14 AM   #33
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I wish! It is from a Boler that sold in WA a while back. I saved the pictures in my "Ideas" folder.

For now we leave the stock bunks set up when we're camping, since we have two kids. When we're empty nesters, I'd like to look for a 16' side bath and convert the front sofa like the pictures. Or maybe I'll buy a deluxe... LOL!
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:45 AM   #34
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So interesting to note that on Casita sites, the folks are doing a lot of similar mods in reverse, converting their side dinettes into couches. On the Scamp/Boler sites, the mods are often to turn the front couch into a dinette.

I guess we always want something different than what we have. I dunno.
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Old 11-16-2015, 08:19 PM   #35
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Bite the bullet and don't look back ! U can buy cheap beer , cheap shoes ,cheap clothes and cheap food ! If ur cheap ! Than I guess u deserve it ! Enjoy it ! Or save ur money ! So u can leave it to ur children ! ! 😜
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..... Or save ur money ! So u can leave it to ur children ! ! ��
No kidding! One of my favorite bumper stickers says "Spend your children's inheritance. You'll enjoy it more than they will."

True story!
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No kidding! One of my favorite bumper stickers says "Spend your children's inheritance. You'll enjoy it more than they will."

True story!
I always say ! I gonna spend and enjoy the money I have ! And when I die ! My children can fight for Wats left over ! ��
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Old 11-17-2015, 05:44 AM   #38
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13 Deluxe

My wife and have a 13 Deluxe with larger bed and front dinette on order. We ordered it in July for an April build. We have since bought a used 13 Standard and an older 19 Deluxe. We are I our mid sixties, so our view is that of an older couple.

Scamps deluxe wood work is very nice. Our new 13 that is on order has wonderful birch with many shades of color. Our 19 Deluxe has cleaned up well and the 27 year old cherry is beautiful. Our little 13 Standard reminds me of a clinical examination room form the sixties.

We really dislike having to change a table and bed back and forth. In a 13 Deluxe with a front dinette, the bed can stay a bed for days on end. If you are not wanting a bathroom in your 13, the Deluxe with the bigger bed and Front dinette is the way to go.

As I become older, I find that things on the bottom shelf tend to stay there. I dislike more and more bending over. Not too impress with the 13's icebox location, just too darned low.

Have two Scamps to detail out and learn from has been a good experience. As an older guy, I'm becoming aware of the climbs required by the 19. It has a step at the door and I really do have to climb into bed.

By warm weather, we'll have a couple of Scamps for sale.

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Old 11-17-2015, 09:44 AM   #39
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Wife and I have the 13' "Standard". She likes the brightness of the white fiberglass and doesnt feel as "closed in". I like the wood look...BUT....

I would NOT pay $3000 for something in my trailer that's going to contribute absolutely NOTHING. We look at how much time is actually spent inside our trailer.

No, we're not going to leave the 3K for our kids, but I can think of ALOT of things/toys I'd like to have rather than blowing it on something I really dont want/need. That's just my opinion.
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Old 11-17-2015, 10:23 AM   #40
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Concerning the money: my philosophy is "if I don't spend it, the kids will get it." I've told them that and they don't care. A single lady friend (elderly) asked my advice about a Roadtrek which she really wanted. My advice was if you want it and can afford it, go for it.
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:27 AM   #41
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I came close to buying a Scamp deluxe. The cabinets are all wood ( no faux wood, veneer, etc.), Happy shopping, Raz
I bought a new Scamp 13 Deluxe in 2014 and my experience is different than many of the folks here. Maybe mine was made on a Monday morning. While the Red Oak is beautiful, much of it is veneer covered particle board. The cabinet doors and cabinet frames are solid Oak, but the sheet goods (cabinet and door panels), bath door, cabinet sides are all particle board with a thin veneer covering. I wish they would use veneer covered plywood instead for weight savings, stronger screw holding and durability.

My Scamp has no true fine woodworking, but lots of staples, screws and rough edges. I spent a couple of hours going over cabinet openings with sandpaper to eliminate knuckle scraping sharp edges and replaced the heavy plastic coated particle board table top and range cover with Oak plywood for beauty and weight savings.

That said I believe this is pretty much standard quality for the low-end RV industry. And it works well enough for most folks.

On the other hand 20K miles later, the wood is warm looking and beautiful and I would buy it again. YMMV. It is easy to romanticize our eggs and mostly that is justified. Just know what you are getting.

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Old 11-17-2015, 11:35 AM   #42
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Thanks John Michael for that post. Good, honest, fair and insightful information.
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