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Old 05-20-2010, 06:59 PM   #1
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American Enterprises' Converter

Our 2005 Scamp's converter failed in 2008, I ordered a replacement converter
from American. After a couple of months, the heat sink in it came loose and
broke. American replaced the circuit board. When I began to get the Scamp in
shape for camping earlier this week, I found it was not charging the battery. After
checking the converter, one of the heat sinks was loose and broke. Again!

I called American Enterprise in Canoga Park, CA. I ordered another circuit board. Carlos
at American said it was very rare for the heat sinks to break. He wanted to see the broken circuit board and if he feels it was faulty, he would reimburse the cost. It is in the mail, hope it will result in getting a reimbursement. Hope this new board will last a while.

Wow! Have any of you have had any problems with the Scamp's converters?

desi vu all over again:
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/index.ph...ic=30557&hl
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:39 PM   #2
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Look at the following EBay sites for converters, American and others. It may be less expensive to just replace it with a more robust unit.
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksi...-All-Categories
http://shop.ebay.com/willisdlr/m.html?_nkw...om=&_ipg=25
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Old 05-21-2010, 10:33 AM   #3
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I have bought a few American converters from an EBay vendor. Much, much cheaper buying via EBay than directly from Scamp. The simplicity of the unit works great for my needs, but a couple units failed immediately for a couple different reasons. Still, the price was low enough that it was easier to simply buy another.
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Old 05-23-2010, 02:43 AM   #4
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It seems to me, if a certain brand keeps failing and must be replaced multiple times, even at a relatively low cost, the unit was not much of a "value" in the first place. Some things are worth paying slightly more for if you get a better product.

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Old 05-23-2010, 04:16 PM   #5
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Yep! Eric, I am sure you are correct. This is what someone told me his 2010 Scamp came with: http://www.progressivedyn.com/power_converters.html

Seems like a neat one too.

Still hoping this next one will be a keeper which I have ordered from American. They are made in China however.
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:21 AM   #6
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I have a 45 amp Progressive Dynamics and I couldn't be happier. Functions flawlessly and you never hear the cooling fan, even though the converter is directly below the bed. On second thought, I probably don't put enough load on it for the unit to even get warm.
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Old 05-26-2010, 07:37 PM   #7
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I received the circuit board yesterday, and got it on this morning and it seems to be up and running like it should. I epoxied the screws which attach it to the board. Hope this one will hold up. Ha!

Not sure if he will reimburse the cost.
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Old 09-06-2010, 09:51 PM   #8
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I received the circuit board yesterday, and got it on this morning and it seems to be up and running like it should. I epoxied the screws which attach it to the board. Hope this one will hold up. Ha!

Not sure if he will reimburse the cost.
How much do they charge for the circuit board? My upper heat sink broke too. Not sure when it broke because this week was the first time we put much of a load on the 12 volts, using the roof fan instead of the A/C over 24 hours, then some lights started dimming until I turned the fan off.
I was able to solder the upper heat sink back in but it didn't seem to work after I was done (at least the cooling fan didn't come on), I'll check the voltage tomorrow to see if there's any difference when I turn the converter on.


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$100 with the shipping; $75 for the circuit board, $25 for shipping.

American Enterprise in Canoga Park, CA ---- 818-598-8580
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I am going to jump to a conclusion and also offer a solution...
This is a 16 Scamp with a side dinette, Right?
The converter is under the aft seat in the side dinette ?
The compartment is not vented and the converter fan can not adequately cool the converter.
The board overheated and caused the heat sink to detach rather than the other way around.
The answer is likely in adding a vent in the seat base on the forward side to allow airflow.
Maybe I'm wrong on these points but I am seeing evidence accumulate which bears witness to this being a common problem.

My 2004 13 has had its American converter for 6 years without incident, which means very little, eventhough it has spent several offseasons running fulltime.
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Old 09-07-2010, 06:35 AM   #11
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My American inverter stopped charging the battery within 2 years of taking delivery of my 2007 13'. I replaced it with the progressive unit described here and have been very pleased with it's operation. According to Kent Eveland, Scamp now uses the Progressive unit in all the Scamp models.
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Old 09-07-2010, 05:25 PM   #12
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converter replacement

Yes, just replaced mine in my 2006 sd scamp 16'. Would not charge batt and lights would not work on 110v. Seems from my research they have had a lot of trouble with the American converter. However, I have owned another 16' 1985, a 19' (89) and a 2006 13' with no converter problems.


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American Enterprises' Converter

Our 2005 Scamp's converter failed in 2008, I ordered a replacement converter
from American. After a couple of months, the heat sink in it came loose and
broke. American replaced the circuit board. When I began to get the Scamp in
shape for camping earlier this week, I found it was not charging the battery. After
checking the converter, one of the heat sinks was loose and broke. Again!

I called American Enterprise in Canoga Park, CA. I ordered another circuit board. Carlos
at American said it was very rare for the heat sinks to break. He wanted to see the broken circuit board and if he feels it was faulty, he would reimburse the cost. It is in the mail, hope it will result in getting a reimbursement. Hope this new board will last a while.

Wow! Have any of you have had any problems with the Scamp's converters?

desi vu all over again:
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/index.ph...ic=30557&hl
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Old 09-07-2010, 06:35 PM   #13
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We appear to be having problems with our 2010's converter. Our 13' never had a problem out in the boonies unless someone forgot to plug it in before we left and then left the battery cables at home.
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I am going to jump to a conclusion and also offer a solution...
This is a 16 Scamp with a side dinette, Right?
The converter is under the aft seat in the side dinette ?
The compartment is not vented and the converter fan can not adequately cool the converter.
The board overheated and caused the heat sink to detach rather than the other way around.
The answer is likely in adding a vent in the seat base on the forward side to allow airflow.
Maybe I'm wrong on these points but I am seeing evidence accumulate which bears witness to this being a common problem.

My 2004 13 has had its American converter for 6 years without incident, which means very little, eventhough it has spent several offseasons running fulltime.
Yes, 16 with side dinette. I believe shock or vibration caused the heat sink to fail rather than overheating though, since it sheared off and broke the 6 transistor tabs where they enter the circuit board. I wouldn't expect too much heat buildup from the small load I normally place on the 12V system, since most of my lights are LED and I rarely use the fan.
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