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Old 06-07-2013, 03:11 AM   #29
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The thing that irritates me is the way Scamp mounts curtain rods. I have 24 unnecessary holes through the shell of my trailer just to mount the DANG curtain rods. Stoooopid.
I don't see how else they could do it. If they used wood blocks glued on or something, the curtains would stick out to far. I'm in the process of changing all mine so the rods are almost touching the top of the window, and they still hang too far away at the bottom. I'm going to have to come up with a magnet or snap solution to keep them against the bottom of the window.

Any other mounting method would make it worse.
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Old 06-07-2013, 07:20 AM   #30
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Has anyone ever been able to match the price of a sort of equal Scamp to an Escape? I would have to say that every time I read one of Floyd's post, I want to put in an order for a Scamp. Scamp is the first fiberglass trailer that I ever saw and have seen a few from the outside since. To me, that shape is just too cute! I have no issue with units not changing as I worked for the high-end 5th wheel manufacturer that worked that way and after he sold the company, they changed and now I consider their products a mixed bag. I also understand that it is cheaper to not deviate and I saw a lot of people not that happy with what they were sure was a winner after spending a lot of extra cash to get it that way. OK, I like "classic" and those items that pass "the test of time".
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:03 AM   #31
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The "big" difference is in the word "big".
I looked at an Escape 19 recently. It's a nice trailer, but it's a "House Trailer" as compared to the Scamp 13 which is a "Travel Trailer".
I'm not sure that comparison is valid for brand comparison. That is like trying to compare my little Ford Ranger, the "Tonka Toy" to a Ram 3500 Dually Diesel.
How would compare the Scamp 16' to the Escape 15' or 17'? Or better yet the Scamp 19' 5th wheel to the Escape 19' 5th?
I see 6" difference in length, 2" in height and about 600 Lbs as advertised. The weights don't seem to include options though.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:35 AM   #32
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I don't see how else they could do it. ....
Any other mounting method would make it worse.
How about something simple like this:
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Or for those that have overhead cabinets, Robert Johan's solution is really slick. If the only thing that's available is the rear cabinet, a curtain rod or blind can still be suspended from the cabinet:
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These solutions take care of the 24 rivets through the shell, Scamp doesn't put any at the bottom for the curtains, except on the door. Eight rivets through the door for curtain rods!

Escape has a bracket attached to the bottom of the window frame that pulls the blind/curtain close to the bottom, it's not a very good picture, but you get the idea:
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All you have to do, is think a little bit outside the box!!
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:59 AM   #33
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Hmmm! So if I purchase a Scamp I might go to an Egg ralley and go with a 70's theme wearing my bell bottoms, have an old color TV in the kitchen playing my 8 trac tapes to tunes of that period and have Lawrence Welk on the TV. My Tow Vehicle will be a 1973 Plymouth Gran Fury station wagon fully restored with an old 383 Commando V8. lol

I'm just kidding! Seriously there are things I like about both brands. Scamp is a classic and I like the shape and basically all these years in production I feel you know what your getting. I love eggs and can't wait to get my own gosh darn it! It's nice they provide parts and can refurbish trailers too. Besides they are right next to me in Minnesota which is like my second home state.

I sold new and used cars and trucks for a number of years and I just feel every brand has their strengths and weaknesses and there are a number of variables such as personal needs since everyone is different in how they hope to use it, budget, style which is subjective and what works for them.

It will be a little bit of time before I'm ready to purchase and although I would love a 19 ft Escape things could change and I could get a 16 foot Scamp deluxe with front bathroom/side dinette and eventually customize it. Either way I'd be happy, grateful and have fun!
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Old 06-07-2013, 09:07 AM   #34
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....and I could get a 16 foot Scamp deluxe with front bathroom/side dinette and eventually customize it. Either way I'd be happy, grateful and have fun!
And that's EXACTLY what it's all about. Making memories. There are NO bad brands of all molded towables. None! Love the one you're with (or gonna get )
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:21 PM   #35
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I'm not sure that comparison is valid for brand comparison. That is like trying to compare my little Ford Ranger, the "Tonka Toy" to a Ram 3500 Dually Diesel.
How would compare the Scamp 16' to the Escape 15' or 17'? Or better yet the Scamp 19' 5th wheel to the Escape 19' 5th?
I see 6" difference in length, 2" in height and about 600 Lbs as advertised. The weights don't seem to include options though.
Guess you made the point for me. I have a 2001 Ford Ranger and would not even consider a straight trade for a Ram 3500 Dually Diesel.
When I leave home, I like to leave it intact and on the foundation.
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:55 PM   #36
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Rivets are cost effective from a manufacturing perspective and have proved durable over a long period of time. Having said that I replaced my curtain rod rivets with stainless steel machine screws and brass acorn nuts. But that was mostly because I thought the brass acrorn nuts looked better than rivets against the brass finish curtain rods.
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:45 PM   #37
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Are the rivets "pop" rivets? My husband says that aircraft use rivets - he studied Aircraft Maintenance years ago. He said the solid aluminum rivets are not a problem at all.
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Yup they are and they are very easy to fix (even I can do it) its why the trailers are easy to maintain.
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:29 PM   #39
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I don't see how else they could do it. If they used wood blocks glued on or something, the curtains would stick out to far. I'm in the process of changing all mine so the rods are almost touching the top of the window, and they still hang too far away at the bottom. I'm going to have to come up with a magnet or snap solution to keep them against the bottom of the window.

Any other mounting method would make it worse.
You could sew a loop in the bottoms of the curtains and run a piece of wire or nylon string through the loops. Ends of the wire or string could be attached to a small piece of whatever material (wood, plastic) you want, which in turn is glued to the wall. Then you have curtains that are close at both top and bottom, and can be drawn open or closed like usual. I set up the door curtain like this on my old Burro, and since it was on the door I actually screwed into the inside of the door with a screw at each end of the wire.
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Before you lay out your hard-earned money for anything, you owe it to yourself to shop around. After you have seen the choices, the answer will be clear.
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Before you lay out your hard-earned money for anything, you owe it to yourself to shop around. After you have seen the choices, the answer will be clear.
if you call/email Escape they will try and arrange for you to be able to see one of their trailers some place close to you. I suspect Scamp will do the same.
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Hi: Dakota... Here's a pic. of our trailer the first time I laid eyes on it!!! at first sight...and it's only gotten better.
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