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Old 08-20-2013, 07:06 AM   #15
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So would it be sacrilege to show up at an Egg get together with such a rare Scamp motorhome only to find it is not original and has been updated in drivetrain and the interior?

This thread has piqued my interest and have e-mailed Richard from the June ad but I realize that most likely it is sold.

My main goal would still be to get a nice egg travel trailer but this might be a fun long term project. I'd need to see if I could put one or two road bicycles in it while traveling if I were to travel to races.

Can the chassis be upgraded for a slight gain in safety, handling and capacity with updated Ford parts without a huge investment or re-engineering it?

2.8 v6 I wonder what the power to weight ratio is like for that truck. I would imagine it would be underpowered which would limit me to regional use here on the flat prairie but would it possible to upgrade to the 4.0 v6?

Hmmm! This might be a serious Minnesota made vehicle. lol Camper made in Backous and the Ranger made at the historic Highland Park Plant in St. Paul which recently closed. Luckily it probably wasn't driven in Minnesota winters though or there would be nothing left of the ranger due to rust.
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:15 AM   #16
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It is for sale again in MN....that's why I was asking....my intent is to purchase it.
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That's awesome! Cottage Grove Mn I see.
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Old 08-20-2013, 08:30 AM   #18
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...So would it be sacrilege to show up at an Egg get together with such a rare Scamp motorhome only to find it is not original and has been updated in drivetrain and the interior? ...
Not at all, it is probable that 90% or more of fiberglass eggs at a get together are not original.
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Not at all, it is probable that 90% or more of fiberglass eggs at a get together are not original.
Right - a camper is more like a house than a classic car. It is all about functionality, not originality.
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yeah that's my feeling on it being a focus towards functionality .
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Hey Everyone,

So would it be sacrilege to show up at an Egg get together with such a rare Scamp motorhome only to find it is not original and has been updated in drivetrain and the interior?

This thread has piqued my interest and have e-mailed Richard from the June ad but I realize that most likely it is sold.

My main goal would still be to get a nice egg travel trailer but this might be a fun long term project. I'd need to see if I could put one or two road bicycles in it while traveling if I were to travel to races.

Can the chassis be upgraded for a slight gain in safety, handling and capacity with updated Ford parts without a huge investment or re-engineering it?

2.8 v6 I wonder what the power to weight ratio is like for that truck. I would imagine it would be underpowered which would limit me to regional use here on the flat prairie but would it possible to upgrade to the 4.0 v6?

Hmmm! This might be a serious Minnesota made vehicle. lol Camper made in Backous and the Ranger made at the historic Highland Park Plant in St. Paul which recently closed. Luckily it probably wasn't driven in Minnesota winters though or there would be nothing left of the ranger due to rust.
It is all well traveled ground. That Ranger chassis could easily be upgraded in drive train and suspension.How about a 4.0L V6, or even a 5.0L V8? That with a 9" differential and a little suspension work would practically turn this thing into a hotrod autocross machine!
The truck is stable and drivable as it is, with enough power to do the job.
My only real objection is the ersatz duelly set-up. Although it has lasted 30 years so far, it's tenure would come to an abrupt end when it rolled into my shop.
I'm thinking 5.0L V8 , T5, and a 9"
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Hey Floyd,

When I was originally looking at truck campers my focus was getting a truck camper that could be handled by a single rear wheeled pickup to better get around in snow and off road. I would definitely be interested in removing the dual rear wheel set up on one of these. With your experience with Ford will this little 2.8 v6 be able to get one of these rare Scamp motorhomes through the Rockies or be better to keep it on the Great plains type of terrain?

Are you serious a 5.0 liter in this? lol I can't imagine the space left for someone to work on it. Isn't the 4.0 liter known as practically a bulletproof engine from Ford? One of their best?

It has a tow hitch on the back but the present owner has never used it. Evidently another Minnesotan went to check it out and said it had more room in it that his 19 ft Scamp but he already has too many projects going.

I'm tempted but who ever gets it I think will have a lot of fun with it being that it's so unique.
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While it would be a fun project to re-power it, I think I'd stick with the 2.8L. Unless you can personally do the work, you'd never make it worth the cost to convert it.

Look at it this way, it still has 2/3 of its useful life left. Just maintain it, use it and enjoy it.
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The Eurovan (which the Rialta is based) never sold well in the US. Most dealers don't stock any more than filters (which are common to other models), but they can be ordered. Price was the other big issue - VW is proud of its commercial products (which the Eurovan chassis is considered).

We have two here today and both customers love them.

Back to the Scamp, the wife has been talking about what to do when we out grow out current egg. I think if we could find one of those Scamps or a Chinook to tow our egg it would be ideal. A little drive train upgrade would probably happen though.

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Hey Floyd,

When I was originally looking at truck campers my focus was getting a truck camper that could be handled by a single rear wheeled pickup to better get around in snow and off road. I would definitely be interested in removing the dual rear wheel set up on one of these. With your experience with Ford will this little 2.8 v6 be able to get one of these rare Scamp motorhomes through the Rockies or be better to keep it on the Great plains type of terrain?

Are you serious a 5.0 liter in this? lol I can't imagine the space left for someone to work on it. Isn't the 4.0 liter known as practically a bulletproof engine from Ford? One of their best?

It has a tow hitch on the back but the present owner has never used it. Evidently another Minnesotan went to check it out and said it had more room in it that his 19 ft Scamp but he already has too many projects going.

I'm tempted but who ever gets it I think will have a lot of fun with it being that it's so unique.
While the 2.8L is no powerhouse, in the Scamp it should blow the doors off any 22R equipped motorhome, especially considering that they are generally bigger and heavier.
When I drove the one above, I found it to be easily comparable in performance to a typical V8 full-sized Class "C" motorhome.

There are two different 4.0L V6s, an earlier pushrod and a newer SOHC.
Either would do well. The SOHC would do as well as many V8s.
Lots of these trucks are running around with 5.0L V8s.
A 5.0L V8 will fit in a narrower space than a 2.3L 4CYL. and looks great in the engine bay of my Pinto.
It is also easy to build a Lima 2.3L engine to exceed 150HP and that was the base engine family offered in that Ranger.
One point...
The 2.8 is both antique and obsolete and while there were lots of performance parts for them in days of yore, you would be hard pressed to find much available today.
A little research may reveal that direct swaps to a 2.9L or the pushrod 4.0L may be possible since they are all Cologne derivatives, but I don't know from personal knowledge what may be involved.
I pulled my car trailer all over the place with a Pushrod 4.0L in a 1992 Ranger, even with a 3.08 gear.
I now have a SOHC 4.0L Ranger which has worked hard for more than twelve years without complaint, pulling all sorts of trailers.
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It is for sale again in MN....that's why I was asking....my intent is to purchase it.
I already corresponded with Richard by e-mail: it's not for sale again, it is still for sale. There was some interest, but Richard has not yet found a buyer.
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My only real objection is the ersatz duelly set-up. Although it has lasted 30 years so far, it's tenure would come to an abrupt end when it rolled into my shop.
Richard confirmed -by e-mail - that the dual wheels on adapters were added by Scamp to the original Ford Ranger axle. I wouldn't want this, either, although it seems to have worked without incident.

Finding more suitable (single) tires to fit the Scamp wheel wells might be a challenge, but it might be an interesting upgrade which wouldn't conflict with the spirit of the Scamp design. We often debate motorhomes versus travel trailers; I think if I were to go with the motorhome I would want to emphasize some advantage of that format, which might be improved mobility on trails... and that might lead to a 4x4 version. I would be concerned about stability then...

Floyd, does that look like the chassis of the short-box (6' box, 108" wheelbase) or the longbox (7' box, 114" wheelbase) Ranger to you?
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Richard confirmed -by e-mail - that the dual wheels on adapters were added by Scamp to the original Ford Ranger axle. I wouldn't want this, either, although it seems to have worked without incident.

Finding more suitable (single) tires to fit the Scamp wheel wells might be a challenge, but it might be an interesting upgrade which wouldn't conflict with the spirit of the Scamp design. We often debate motorhomes versus travel trailers; I think if I were to go with the motorhome I would want to emphasize some advantage of that format, which might be improved mobility on trails... and that might lead to a 4x4 version. I would be concerned about stability then...

Floyd, does that look like the chassis of the short-box (6' box, 108" wheelbase) or the longbox (7' box, 114" wheelbase) Ranger to you?
It certainly was not the 108". I did not take notes, but it was likely 114", although with the back of the cab cut out, it could have been the 125" supercab chassis.
It looks short,but I simply don't remember.
Hey Cricket!...Got a tape measure?
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