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Old 08-20-2013, 06:13 PM   #29
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Floyd,I thought we agreed that you needed to buy this one?

Whats the deal,you have really let the ball drop this time!

Morph it with that Pinto and stand back.
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Old 08-20-2013, 08:37 PM   #30
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It certainly was not the 108". I did not take notes, but it was likely 114", although with the back of the cab cut out, it could have been the 125" supercab chassis.
It looks short,but I simply don't remember.
Thanks Floyd. I'll assume 114". To put that in current perspective, you can't buy any pickup that short in North America now.

I don't think Ford offered the regular cab on the longest wheelbase - or at least it wasn't available to Scamp, as that would be the only sane choice were it available.
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:00 PM   #31
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Thanks Floyd. I'll assume 114". To put that in current perspective, you can't buy any pickup that short in North America now.

I don't think Ford offered the regular cab on the longest wheelbase - or at least it wasn't available to Scamp, as that would be the only sane choice were it available.
True, but could you be looking at a supercab with the back cut out of it??
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:35 AM   #32
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I close on a lot for a new very modest house(base camp) and a future garage for a fgrv (egg nest) to be built in a few days and the contractors will start work next month so I can't do anything right now. It would just be too much right now. So! I'll have to resist the temptation of a rare and unique Scamp motorhome.

Good luck for those of you that are interested in this motorhome and please let us know how your doing with it! I'm excited for you!

Back to the original focus of, moving to a town 4 hours away, getting house built, recover, buy egg and then begin the adventure. lol
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:25 AM   #33
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The more you guys talk about it, the less interested I am getting....sounds like there is potential for lots of stuff to go wrong. BUT I do have a tape measure for those that are interested.
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The more you guys talk about it, the less interested I am getting....sounds like there is potential for lots of stuff to go wrong. BUT I do have a tape measure for those that are interested.
I don't see it that way. It is a great little motor home, but it is nearly 30 years old, so you can expect to do some maintenance, both on the truck part and the camper part. All this talk of doing a re-power is just "wouldn't it be cool" chatter.
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I don't see it that way. It is a great little motor home, but it is nearly 30 years old, so you can expect to do some maintenance, both on the truck part and the camper part. All this talk of doing a re-power is just "wouldn't it be cool" chatter.
ROFL..........yeah, "man" talk.
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The more you guys talk about it, the less interested I am getting....sounds like there is potential for lots of stuff to go wrong. BUT I do have a tape measure for those that are interested.
There is really not anymore potential for problems than any other used Item.
I drive my 1966 unrestored Falcon several times a week.After an initial maintenance curve, it is fun and reliable. The parts are cheap and readily available.
As for the tape measure....
Sorry, I was thinking you had access to the RV to measure the wheelbase.Nevermind.
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Hey Cricket,

I still think that little motorhome is a great opportunity. I exchanged a few e-mails with Richard yesterday as I'm sure others have recently. It has extremely low miles for it's age, only a little surface rust since rust was a main concern for me with the vehicle being from Minnesota. It has a 5 speed transmission which is a plus IMHO for that type of vehicle to have a better use power when needed and less to go wrong. The clutch should be in decent condition. It has been stored inside every winter and has been outside during the summer in the past few years.

Presently there are no leaks in the camper and the wood floor is strong. It runs, drives well and A/C is working. Even the Ranger interior from the photos don't look to be faded from the sun. It has all the advantages of a fiberglass egg camper and being a Ranger you have numerous options on the mechanical side.

My main concern about the 2.8 v6 is if there would be any issues of being underpowered matched to that chassis. If it works as is I would have just cleaned it up, have it completely checked out when I got home and fixed a few things if need be for the short term and enjoy for price I purchased it for. My thoughts on the 4.0 SOHC were as a replacement engine when the 2.8 eventually died or whatever. Otherwise I'd basically leave it alone except just improve it over time like others do with their fgrv's and maybe get rid of the dual wheel set up but it's not like something I have to do. I don't need a speed machine. It should have a lot of great memory filled miles ahead of it.

I'm just going off of my past experience with years being in the car business and having some friends who were techs. It's just poor timing for me right now. If it is somehow still available once things settle down for me once this house is done I'll gladly go to Cottage Grove, Mn about 6 hours away to check it out and maybe just purchase it and see some old friends in the Twin Cities while I'm there. I'd end up with one self propelled egg and one that is towed.

Have you physically seen and driven it yet?
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Planning to look at it this weekend...
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For those interested, here's an '87 on a Dodge chassis listed for sale last year.1987 Scamp Motorhome 18 for sale in Dallas, Texas United States
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True, but could you be looking at a supercab with the back cut out of it??
Yes, a cutaway SuperCab would have the longest Ranger wheelbase, and it could be a SuperCab, but I am thinking it is a standard cab for a few reasons:
  • I had the impression that these mini motorhomes typically had just an access opening, rather than a cutaway cab integrated with the fiberglass body... but that's not factual information, just my impression from previous discussions and photos.
  • In the interior photos, the access way from coach to cab appears to be quite narrow - the cab is not opened up wide into the interior, like a typical Class C. It looks more like an access way in the cab rear wall (and continuing into the roof) than a cab without a rear wall.
  • If a Supercab cab is cutaway to fit the Scamp, it would not just have the back opened, it would be shortened about a foot and a half. That would likely remove the rear cab mounts, so unless it also has mid-cab mounts (in the normal rear mount positions for the regular cab), there would be nothing holding up the back of the cab. That sounds like a lot more work on the cab (and perhaps mounting points on the frame) than Scamp would likely have done.
Unfortunately, none of the photos that I have seen show the back edge of the cab, or the connection between cab and coach. Someone looking at one in person could probably quickly determine which it is (completely cutaway cab integrated with moulded coach, or normal cab with access hole bridged to coach). If it is not completely cutaway, and still has its original rear corners, it must be a regular cab.

The Dakota-based version apparently had more distance from cab to axle, and would presumably have been the 124" wheelbase (the longer of the two available for the regular cab; the 131" Club Cab didn't exist yet in 1987); the extra room from coach to cab with the Dakota seems consistent with being 10" longer in wheelbase but having a slightly longer cab, compared to the Ranger.

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For those interested, here's an '87 on a Dodge chassis listed for sale last year.1987 Scamp Motorhome 18 for sale in Dallas, Texas United States
Thanks Raz, that's interesting to compare.

I see this one is based on the Dodge Dakota, not the little Ram 50. This seems like a better size of base vehicle, both for cab roominess and for chassis stability (wheelbase and track) and likely capacity (especially rear axle rating). It has more space from cab to axle, so there is a visible transition piece to bridge the gap - too bad the body couldn't be redesigned to more effectively use the extra space.

Like the Ranger, this one features dual rear wheels... but it appears to use the same wheels at the front as the rear, so this is a more thoroughly done conversion with front hub adapters and so all positions can be covered by one spare. The rear axle presumably still has the wheel pair's centre well outboard of where it should be, which is hard on bearings... and who know what the GAWR of that rear axle was even before making it worse this way.

A note about the ad: it says that the truck has a 3.19 L engine; I believe this is just a typo, as a 1987 Dakota V6 would be a 3.9L engine.
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Almost all early mini-motorhomes (Toyota, Nissan/Datsun) had a "walk-through" cab. But you had to be a 4' tall size 1 to actually walk through

Some of the earliest of the class "C" offerings were originally called "Full chassis Campers" to denote a difference from slide-ins and usually only had a cab window pass through
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Almost all early mini-motorhomes (Toyota, Nissan/Datsun) had a "walk-through" cab. But you had to be a 4' tall size 1 to actually walk through

Some of the earliest of the class "C" offerings were originally called "Full chassis Campers" to denote a difference from slide-ins and usually only had a cab window pass through
In 1973 the Paducah KY Datsun dealer had a PL620 with a Holmes wrecker body!
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