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Old 01-02-2017, 04:09 PM   #1
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I'm very new to these forums. Which forum is the best place for me to solicit information about people's experiences with the Scamp 13? Thanks for the pointers.
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Old 01-02-2017, 04:14 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum, Jean!

Here is fine for your question. We've owned our 13' Scamp standard front bunk model for four years and love it. What do you want to know?
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Old 01-02-2017, 05:02 PM   #3
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Here is fine. We've owned our 13' Scamp standard front bunk model for four years and love it. What do you want to know?
Thanks, Jon. I've just started doing my research, and some other kind folks on this site have educated me about the importance of various features available in FB trailers. On my day off today, with hubby at work, I indulged in research binge, spreadsheet and all.

I just bought a new vehicle (Ford Escape Titanium with 3500 tow capacity). It was a good choice for us for a number of reasons, but we hadn't considered buying a trailer at the time. I really want to keep this vehicle. Given that, I'm pretty sure I need to stick with a 13' trailer.
  1. Have you weighed your Scamp packed and loaded?
  2. How tight is the shower in terms of real-world usage? We're not kids (not under 55 , and hubby is 6').
  3. How many outlets, and what voltage, are inside? (It's not clear from the Scamp website.)
  4. Any details about the battery pack? (Unclear from website.)
  5. Did you make any after-market swaps or changes?
  6. Anyone go solar? How'd that go?
  7. What's the backlog from order to delivery?

Not having had a trailer before, I'm just generally curious about how well the tank sizes, appliances and battery would meet the needs of a resource-conscious couple on a 5 day trip off-grid.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 01-02-2017, 05:10 PM   #4
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I tow an Escape 17B with a RAV4 V6 which has 3,500 lb tow / 350 lb tongue, so I think you could look beyond 13' Scamp, if you choose.
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Old 01-02-2017, 05:36 PM   #5
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Jean, our Scamp is a very basic 13'er- no bathroom, no fridge or AC (icebox only), but we do have the furnace. We camp without hookups, short trips (up to 5 days), and do all our cooking and eating outside. We don't use the inside plumbing, either. It's more like camping than RVing, really.

It sounds like you be using yours quite differently. The front bath replaces the couch/bunk in front, so there is no place to sit or eat when the bed is made up. You'll need to consider whether converting the dinette every day works for you.

There is only one 120V electric outlet inside and none outside. There are no 12V outlets. Scamp will add them as options. The battery pack is a small group 24 battery, but I think you can upgrade to a larger group 27 if you want. The smaller powers our lights and limited furnace use for 4-5 days no problem. Depending on where you camp, a powered roof vent may be sufficient in lieu of AC when off grid.

The fridge and HW heater run on propane when not plugged in. For a week or less, I'd expect one LP tank to be enough, but you can have two if you want.

The standard 12 gallon fresh water tank is limited for a 5-day off-grid trip. You may have to carry a couple of extra 5 gallon containers.

On the 13' standard, you have the option of a larger bed (54"x75") with a smaller galley and closet or the standard bed (45"x75") with a larger galley and closet.

I agree with Glenn, though, that you might consider a larger 16' size. At around 2600 pounds loaded it seems possible with your Escape. A 13' Scamp with the bathroom will probably weigh around 1900 pounds loaded. The 16'er gives you the option of a larger fridge- the 1.9 cf fridge in the 13'ers is really tiny- and a separate dinette. Unfortunately, the larger bed is not an option on the 16'er, unless you opt for the deluxe (wood interior) version.
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Old 01-02-2017, 06:20 PM   #6
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When you order a Scamp ask lots of questions. Many of the options are not listed anywhere. We had a 2nd water tank added 12 gallon does not go far. We always use the shower. I am 5'10" My wife more than me. Just because I let her have more water and I don't really mind the campground showers. We had plugs added both 12v and110v. Also an extra set of tail lights our first Scamp was rear ended.
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Old 01-02-2017, 06:35 PM   #7
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Thanks, Jon & Ken. I like the idea of an additional water tank. Don't mind a sponge bath, but can't stand my hair 3-days dirty.

I'd certainly prefer a 16' trailer, partly because larger fridges are an option. Are others towing with a vehicle like mine (3500 lb, 350 tongue weight)? I don't want to be unsafe (especially for other people's sake), but I'm a practical person at heart.

It'd be nice if Scamp added the large bed without having to have the extra weight of wood cabinets. Bummer.
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Old 01-02-2017, 08:44 PM   #8
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Thanks, Jon. I've just started doing my research, and some other kind folks on this site have educated me about the importance of various features available in FB trailers. On my day off today, with hubby at work, I indulged in research binge, spreadsheet and all.

I just bought a new vehicle (Ford Escape Titanium with 3500 tow capacity). It was a good choice for us for a number of reasons, but we hadn't considered buying a trailer at the time. I really want to keep this vehicle. Given that, I'm pretty sure I need to stick with a 13' trailer.
  1. Have you weighed your Scamp packed and loaded?
  2. How tight is the shower in terms of real-world usage? We're not kids (not under 55 , and hubby is 6').
  3. How many outlets, and what voltage, are inside? (It's not clear from the Scamp website.)
  4. Any details about the battery pack? (Unclear from website.)
  5. Did you make any after-market swaps or changes?
  6. Anyone go solar? How'd that go?
  7. What's the backlog from order to delivery?

Not having had a trailer before, I'm just generally curious about how well the tank sizes, appliances and battery would meet the needs of a resource-conscious couple on a 5 day trip off-grid.

Thanks in advance.
I have a (prefire) Scamp 13D
1] Yes, with every option available except a second propane tank.
It weighed 1950 pounds loaded for an extended trip.

2]I'm 65 next month and 6' tall (prefire 13 is 3" shorter) Iuse the shower almost every day when traveling and have found it commodious enough and easy to maintain.

3] You only get one inside exposed outlet, and a couple of lights,but additional outlets (12V and 110V) as well as additional lights are available as options at very reasonable cost. Placed where you want them.

4] Call and talk to a salesman (I prefer Wayne Pitlick).
Package will include a 24 sized battery and a Converter with shore power.

5] I have made many aftermarket mods to personalize our Scamp, most people do. While the trailer is quite comfortable stock, personal touches will make it your own.

6] We have never needed solar, but we are seldom off the grid for more than 5 or 6 days at a time and we charge the battery from both shore power and from the tow vehicle while underway.

7] Order time will vary depending on production schedule and trim level. For current time call and ask Wayne.(800) 346-4962


My wife and I have often used our Scamp for 4 or 5 days without hookups.
I like your term "resource conscious". We still stay comfortable, clean, fed and entertained.
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7. Today there was a post on the Scamp Travel Trailer Facebook page that current orders are scheduled for delivery in August.

The factory is very accommodating for adding outlets, lights, upgrading to a Group 29 battery, and I think we all tend to make our own mods.
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When you talk to Scamp, ask about their referral program. They will try to set you up with a nearby owner for a demo. I'd ask to see both a 13' and a 16' with bathrooms. That would be the best way to decide. The owner receives a small stipend if you buy, so it's a win-win-win.

BTW, if you do opt for a second water tank, be cautious about towing with both tanks full. That much weight near the back can make the trailer tend to sway at highway speeds. Best to travel with only a little water and fill up as near your destination as possible. Personally I think you'd be okay with one for 4-5 days. You give up a fair bit of storage for the second tank. I like the idea of a separate Igloo-type cooler for drinking water outside- in our case it keeps the kids from going in and out of the trailer all day long.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:08 AM   #11
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When you talk to Scamp, ask about their referral program. They will try to set you up with a nearby owner for a demo. I'd ask to see both a 13' and a 16' with bathrooms. That would be the best way to decide. The owner receives a small stipend if you buy, so it's a win-win-win.

BTW, if you do opt for a second water tank, be cautious about towing with both tanks full. That much weight near the back can make the trailer tend to sway at highway speeds. Best to travel with only a little water and fill up as near your destination as possible. Personally I think you'd be okay with one for 4-5 days. You give up a fair bit of storage for the second tank. I like the idea of a separate Igloo-type cooler for drinking water outside- in our case it keeps the kids from going in and out of the trailer all day long.
Great tips, Jon. It's the little things like this that are helping frame up trailer life in my mind. Thanks.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:18 AM   #12
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It'd be nice if Scamp added the large bed without having to have the extra weight of wood cabinets. Bummer.
Jean,
Scamp will install the wider bed on a standard model (at least they would as of two years ago when we purchased our 13'.) However, after considering the lost closet space and diminished kitchen unit, we elected to go with the standard bed and have been happy with that decision.

As has been mentioned, talk to the salesperson. They seem very flexible and lots of options possible that aren't indicated on the website or literature.

Good luck. Whatever version you order I know you will be delighted with it.
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As has been mentioned, talk to the salesperson. They seem very flexible and lots of options possible that aren't indicated on the website or literature.
Thanks, David. Yes, I connected with Wayne Pitlick at Scamp late yesterday, and he's been helpful. There's so much darned research to do! But, it's all fun.
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...There's so much darned research to do! But, it's all fun.
Plenty of help available here, though not always in full agreement!

Once you decide on the basic model, go ahead and put in your order to secure a place in line. Scamp's deposit, change, and cancellation policy is extremely generous. You can make changes to the options list right up until they start your build. You can even cancel your order without penalty if the perfect used trailer happens to fall from the sky.

Most of all, enjoy the journey toward trailer ownership!
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