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Old 08-20-2008, 07:35 PM   #15
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Can you even imagine what it would be like to be in a single-hull trailer sans interior covering (of any kind) in a rain storm Makes my ears ring just to think about it.
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Old 08-20-2008, 07:40 PM   #16
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We were in a rainstorm in our Trill last month and even with ensolite it was far louder than our tin roof on our house =)
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Old 08-20-2008, 08:23 PM   #17
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We had some heavy rain storms in Glenburn, ND during July when we spend a month or so there this summer, we could hear the rain hitting the roof, but not a LOUD noise at all, mainly the metal escape hatch was where the rain drops would make a racket. The insulated bubble foil plus the marine fabric makes it a really quiet unit. So much so with the windows closed we often miss out on coyotes howling and owl hooting, which I do like to hear. It is much quieter than previous RVs we have had and tents.

Being from New Mexico, we love to hear the sound of rain on the roof.

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Old 08-20-2008, 11:10 PM   #18
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Hey, I have two hulls AND insulation..

still is like trying to sleep inside a popcorn popper!
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Old 08-20-2008, 11:17 PM   #19
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So much so with the windows closed we often miss out on coyotes howling and owl hooting, which I do like to hear.
This has created a somewhat amusing problem for me in the Burro. In my duties as "security guard and people squelcher" at the campground I host at on weekends, I sometimes miss the noisy campers.

This last weekend, the other host knocked on my door and asked "Didn't you hear them?"
"No..who?"
"The guys in 70. They had their car door open and stereo blasting. I had 5 people come up and complain"
"oops. I can't hear anything in here with the windows closed"

I now leave the front window wide open and run the heater if it's chilly
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Old 08-21-2008, 12:01 AM   #20
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Another consideration might be the "sweat factor" of single wall fiberglass construction. When it is cool outside your moist breath and any moisture from making tea, coffee or cooking will condense on the walls unless there is insulation.

Nuestra Casita's walls and ceiling have about 7/16" foam insulation between the carpeting and the molded fiberglass. After 8 years, the carpeting still looks good with only an occasional vacuuming. Comfortable temps, quietness and easy maintenance are the desirable traits we enjoy with our stock interior.

That said, the carpet on the floor is showing the wear & tear that one would expect of kitchen carpet in one's home after 8 years. All floor treatment usually leaves something to be desired. Wood, floor tiles, sheet vinyl or other "smooth" surfaces allow grit on the bottom of shoes to result in harm to the surface. Throw rugs would seem to be the obvious answer, but they usually migrate, wrinkle and provide a tripping hazard. We tried an "L" shaped carpet runner with bound edges, on top of the original carpet, but it also migrates and wrinkles. We haven't come up with a simple way to secure it at the bed end so it would be easily removable for shaking.
It will be interesting to see what the test of time reveals for flooring.

You've brought up an interesting topic which should ultimately add to our collective education,
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Can you even imagine what it would be like to be in a [b]single-hull trailer sans interior covering (of any kind) in a rain storm Makes my ears ring just to think about it.
EH? SPEAK UP, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

It actually isn't that bad, sounds kind of nice to me.
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Old 08-21-2008, 07:42 PM   #22
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my 1968 boler doesn't have anything on the walls and never has had--no prob with outside noise. it is raw fibre glas and it does not sweat. the walls have one coat of latex paint. no problem with noise getting out and I play the bagpipes and practice with my chanter inside in evenings fun posting
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EH? SPEAK UP, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

It actually isn't that bad, sounds kind of nice to me.
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We have ensolite in our Scamp and when it rains, you might as well forget about sleeping. The noise is deafening! And that's with ear plugs! I'd probably sleep better in the screen room. If I buy another FGRV, it will have to be better insulated for sound.
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Old 08-22-2008, 06:27 PM   #24
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It's me again! I emailed the Scamp Factory about cleaning the marine fabric after reading another post asking about cleaning the fabric in the Scamp. I also asked what the insulation they use is called. This is their reply:
"Adrian,
Use a fabric cleaner to clean the marine fabric. The insulation is called Astro-foil.
Kent Eveland"


It never hurts to ask the Horse to get an anwer from the Horse's mouth.

Adrain

http://www.astrofoil.net/astrofoil.insulation.home.html

http://www.astrofoil.net/

http://www.astrofoil.net/website.ima...ROLLsample.jpg

http://www.astrofoil.net/website.images/shuttle100.jpg

http://www.astrofoil.net/astrofoil.i....r-values.html
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Old 08-25-2008, 04:55 PM   #25
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I do not believe you can order a Scamp with Carpet, they install Marine Fabric....you can get carpet from Casita, however.
We like the Marine Fabric.....**Backus does not like the term "Rat Fur", nor do we. It just does not look like rat fur, wrong color for rat fur, not really furry. A Fuzzy Downy Wooly, yes, a Soft Fuzz Down would be it, perhaps.

**"The marine fabric (they prefer this term over 'ratfur' ) looks better than I imagined and is supposed to be very water, mold, mildew and odor resistant." http://www.fiberglassrv.com/board/index.ph...l=Scamp+factory

Ensolite (Elephant Hyde) looks a lot like vinyl couch uphostery, easy to clean but dated. Not like fuzzy-woolydown and very water, mold, mildew and odor resistant and so soft to the touch and to bumped heads and elbows.

I believe Casita makes a unit for export to Japan without the carpet.

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Edit added: Perhaps Scamp would let you get one without the fabric installed and you could have the walls finished to your liking. Under the marine fabric is a space aged bubble wrap-like metalic insulation, which seems to work well. R-15. Maybe get two layers of it put in and figure a way to cover it without the tan fuzzy-woolydown. Maybe a poromeric imitation leather would work. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poromer...tation_leather My first thought was Naugahyde. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naugahyde And it seems they still make it: http://www.naugahyde.com/

Naugahyde over the space-age bubble wrap insulation. It will work, I just know it would work. Scamp might even glue it on for you if you bought the Naugahyde and had it at the factory for them.

But Remember: Sleeping in a travel trailer with ceiling and walls coved in tan fuzzy-woolydown must be something like sleeping in a Marcipual's Pouch. Cozy!
Wow your post made me go back in time and think of the tuck and roll jobs you could get in Mexico really cheap.
I know ,I know ,it dates me.
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Old 08-26-2008, 01:47 AM   #26
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pjanits: "...........the tuck and roll jobs you could get in Mexico really cheap." I got my '65 Mustang's (the name/term escapes me at the moment) "deck" (in back of the back seat to the rear window) tuck & rolled in Harlingen, TX in 1965 for a good price (done by Mexicans by the way) and a little black pellow to go between the bucket seats. So my date could ride close. The T & R was all black as well as were the seats in the 'Tang. Mexico is less than 8 miles away from Harlingen as a crow flys....26 to Brownsville and the border, maybe less to Progresso. But this little shop did good work and at home. I would not have taken my new car to Mexico. I can still cry because I sold that car.

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Old 08-26-2008, 07:01 AM   #27
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We have ensolite in our Scamp and when it rains, you might as well forget about sleeping. The noise is deafening! And that's with ear plugs! I'd probably sleep better in the screen room. If I buy another FGRV, it will have to be better insulated for sound.
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Might be a personal preferrence thing. I have ensolite in my Surfside and I really enjoy sleeping in it when it's raining.
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Old 08-26-2008, 07:45 AM   #28
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If you read carefully, Between the lines, you will find that mainly those without carpeting don't like it and those with carpeting like it very much. We are in the latter catagory.
We've had our carpeted Boler for 14 years and love the interior walls. Good insulating properties, doesn't sweat, mildew resistant, easy to maintain, nice to the touch, AND you can hang a picture or callendar anywhere just by adding a little stick-on velcro to the back side and stick it up wherever.
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