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07-06-2010, 03:28 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Casita 17 ft Spirit Deluxe
Posts: 509
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Click this link for Scan Guage Compatible Vehicles.
Here is the list of standard guages taken from the Users Manual.
Standard_Guages.pdf
Click this link for more programable XGuages.
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CD and Joyce Smith - Lily, Violet, and Rose
1999 Casita 17' SD - "The Little Egg"
2007 Escalade - 6.2L V8 - 6L80E Trans - 3.42 Diff
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07-06-2010, 05:49 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 13 ft 2010 ('Ladybug') / 2003 Subaru Forester
Posts: 387
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CD Smith:
Yes, I saw that too, but as described in earlier posts, the question is whether the vehicle has an [b]automatic transmission temperature sensor that can be read by OBDII. Automatic transmission temperature is a critical measure when towing.
Brian
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Brian & Maria
2010 Escape 13 "Ladybug"|2003 Subaru Forester|2012 Toyota Highlander
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07-12-2010, 12:08 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 13 ft Scamp 1999
Posts: 102
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I also contacted SOA and got the following response: Dear Mr. Johnson:
Thank you again for taking the time to contact us. The response to your message from our Technical Services Department is:
Our system of SSMIII can read the transmission temp but I do not know if aftermarket scanners can do the same. P0712 & P0713 are both trans temp sensor codes. These codes do not mean much without the troubleshooting information located on STIS.
As for STIS, that is Subaru Technical Information Site. Subaru Technical Service Manuals are available online at http://techinfo.subaru.com/html/index.jsp. Instructions are on this web site on how to subscribe and/or purchase publications.
If you need any future assistance, Mark, please let us know. Have a great day.
Mark J again: So it appears to me that the scan gauge would show tranmission temps using the PO sensor codes. And thanks for your responses. I have been on again, off again and perhaps on again about a trans cooler. Towing without a cooler may void the warranty and well as installing one during the warranty. A car buyer just can't win, the auto companies have it all figured out anyway!
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07-12-2010, 04:39 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Casita 17 ft Spirit Deluxe
Posts: 509
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Quote:
CD Smith:
Yes, I saw that too, but as described in earlier posts, the question is whether the vehicle has an [b]automatic transmission temperature sensor that can be read by OBDII. Automatic transmission temperature is a critical measure when towing.
Brian
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Brian,
If you look at the list of "more programmable guages" you will find on page 5, GM CANSF lists the codes for Trans Temp.
This may not work for your vehicle, but it won't kill your vehicle if you try it.
Charlie
P.S. The codes P0712 & P0713 are identical to the codes on my Escalade.
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CD and Joyce Smith - Lily, Violet, and Rose
1999 Casita 17' SD - "The Little Egg"
2007 Escalade - 6.2L V8 - 6L80E Trans - 3.42 Diff
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05-17-2011, 01:21 PM
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#25
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Ultra Scan $59.
I just received my Ultra Scan. It displays 6 gauges on a page. It has 3 seperate pages of gauges making for a total of 18 gauges visible to the driver. You can have a single page appear all the time, step between pages by pushing a button or have it automatically roatate between pages at a selectable time interval.
There are upto 75 gauges, depending on vehicle, that you can select from and assign to one of three pages. My favorite gauges are Instantaneous Gas Mileage and % Engine Load (torque used/peak torque). I don't know if it will change my driving habits but it's interesting to see it read 70 mpg when rolling to a stop light instead of a much lower number when you race up to a light and than apply the brakes.
I admit to still learning but it seems to work well. Certainly the price is right.
Following is a support page for Ultra Scan. A good manual and information about use on different vehicles.
UltraGauge Support
Norm
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05-17-2011, 06:49 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: 93 Burro 17 ft
Oklahoma
Posts: 6,025
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Norm, thanks for posting that. I see they only sell direct. Well, I think I want one too!
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05-17-2011, 07:25 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Magee
Norm, thanks for posting that. I see they only sell direct. Well, I think I want one too!
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They were prompt, it arrived 4 days after I ordered.
Norm
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05-18-2011, 04:58 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Definitely a modifier of driving behavior. It's really neat to see the mpg jump up to 100 mpg as you roll to a stop sign. Equally you're doing a mild down hill run and lift your foot off the throttle and see 50 mpg. It's like a little game.
Norm
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05-18-2011, 07:19 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2005 13 ft Trillium Outback
Posts: 282
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That UltraGauge looks like it will be a strong competitor to the ScanGauge. Especially with the price at one third that of ScanGauge. I would probably have gotten that instead of ScanGauge if it had been available (or I knew about it). Don't know when it went on the market.
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2005 Trillium Outback w/ 30" tongue extension
1989 Award 730, 30'
2003 PT Cruiser
1998 K2500 Chevy Silverado 6.5 Turbo Diesel, 4X4, ext cab, short bed
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05-19-2011, 05:31 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 19 ft 2010
Posts: 258
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Ultra Scan
I have looked over the Ultra Gauge web site and I do not find any information that would indicate the Ultra Gauge will measure transmission temperatures. This to me would seem to be a critical measurement while towing.
Am I missing something? Is this something measured by the alarms?
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05-19-2011, 05:43 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1983 13 ft Scamp
Posts: 3,082
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UltraGauge currently does not support Manufacturer specific gauges such as Transmission temperature.
Gauges, UltraGauge
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05-19-2011, 06:59 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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First Usage Report.
It appears that neither gauge supports transmission temperature from all I read. They both support coolant temperature. In my case we have a manual transmission and it's not an issue. Both these devices can only display info supplied by the manufacturer. For example both gauges support battery voltage but Honda does not provide it on our 2004 Honda CRV.
Today I drove into Logan airport during morning rush to drop some people off from York, ME, some 142 miles.
I stopped for gas when I got home.
The scan gauge said we averaged 27.7 mpg and used 5.1 gallons.
To test accuracy I filled up and I calculated that we averaged 27.68 mpg and used 5.18 gallons.
During the trip we averaged 43.4 mph, indicative of the morning rush hour traffic.
All in all I found the gauge pretty accurate.
Norm
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05-19-2011, 07:07 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1983 13 ft Scamp
Posts: 3,082
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Transmission temperature support YES on Scangauge II .I use it all the time.
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05-19-2011, 07:12 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin K
Transmission temperature support YES on Scangauge II .I use it all the time.
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I didn't see it on their web site. Definitely worth having with an automatic.
Norm
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05-19-2011, 07:31 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jesse
Trailer: 1984 Scamp 13'
Maryland
Posts: 815
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Quote:
Originally Posted by honda03842
I didn't see it on their web site. Definitely worth having with an automatic.
Norm
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You probably have to make an X-gauge for it. That's where you create a custom gauge by accessing vehicle-specific info. X-gauge can also do some math to create custom readouts.
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-Jesse
SOLD! - 1984 Scamp 13 in Maryland.
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05-19-2011, 09:52 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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I contacted Scangauge and they now provide transmission temps for Ford, GM and some VWs. They are working on Toyota. Ultra scan is presently in development for Ford, GM and Toyota Prius. If you are an Ultrascan user you can offer to be part of the beta program for transmission temperature gauges.
Unlike the other gauges, there is apparantly not a manufacturer's standard.
Norm
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05-19-2011, 07:20 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet
Posts: 111
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I have a ScangauageII. I was able to get trans temp on my 2002 Tacoma V6 / AT by using the "X-gauge" function.
I have not been able to get trans temp on my Nissan Frontier yet. But I really like the Scan gauge.
Dale
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Dale & Jodi
Gilbert, Az
2000 17' Casita SD
2010 Nissan Frontier CC
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05-23-2011, 06:41 AM
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#38
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Not that it seems to make much difference finacially but interesting to me. I made a repeat trip to Logan now more conscious of Ultra Scan and instantaneous mileage. The first trip I averaged 27.7 mpg on this second virtually identical trip I averaged 28.6 mpg. I'm really curious to see how the numbers change when towing.
Having information always helps.
Norm
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05-23-2011, 01:02 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Trailer: 13 ft Trillium
Posts: 293
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chester Taje
I am just curious if anyone here is using a scan gauge to improve fuel mileage.
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I bought one specifically to help find my 'sweet spot' when towing my Trillium. I drive long distances, like 4,000 miles back and forth from Florida, so every little bit helps. After you input the engine size and gas tank capacity initially you need to update the amount of fuel (and cost if that interests you) at each fill up but the system calculates usage so accurately it prompts you with the number of gallons it expected to be added although this number can be adjusted. I now drive slower generally and I don't mind slowing down a bit on hills. The instrument pays for itself in short order. I don't hold up traffic. I pull over on 2 lane roads if a few cars back up behind me and I stay in one of the right hand lanes on the interstate.
Barrie
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05-23-2011, 02:07 PM
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#40
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Senior Member
Name: Norm and Ginny
Trailer: Scamp 16
Florida
Posts: 7,517
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Barrie, We're heading to your neck of the woods, PEI, in JUly for the egg rally. It will be our first towing test of the gauge. Looking forward to the test.
Norm
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