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Old 03-20-2006, 07:42 AM   #15
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Circling the wagons has been the best security for travelers since the Oregon Trail days. I never stop unless there are other RVs, not even in a Wal-Mart parking lot. On my trips to the far north, a can of bear spray was my constant companion. When I had a flat tire in St. Louis last year, it was the first thing out, then the jack and lug wrench.
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Old 03-20-2006, 11:22 PM   #16
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My daughter and a friend are going on a 3 week post-graduation trip to the Rockies in June. I have taught my family that when you get to a campground, you do recon to check who is in the area, what is the area like, escape routes, telephones, etc. If there is a group that looks like it could cause problems, find another campground.

I have worked 20 years in federal prisons. I am a self-defense and riot control instructor. My family gets tired of me asking them what they see around them. They have learned to be observant and to trust their instincts. Unfortunately, most people have learned not to listen to instinct.

The one thing that I have repeatedly told the girls about their trip-If something does not feel right about an area-LEAVE NOW. Don't take the time to take anything with you, get in the car and GO. Leave everything. Get both people in the car and drive. Come back with the police or ranger and get the stuff. Stuff is cheap. Your life is irrplaceable.

The girls will both be carrying a portable pepper spray at all times. In addition, they will have a large can of "Bear Spray" with them when they hike and available in the campground. Both girls have experienced pepper spray and know that they can fight even when they can't see due to pepper. They also know that anything is a weapon that they can fight with, flashlight, cooking equipment, purse, etc. They also get tired of me telling them to park so that they can drive straight out, no backing up or turning around.

I will keep praying for their safety and trust that with God's help they will have a pleasant experience that they will remember all of their lives.
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Old 03-21-2006, 12:00 AM   #17
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It appears to me that our news media has created a very paranoid society. We think nothing of jumping into our vehicles and driving down the road, but worry about camping. The chances of something bad happening to you are much greater commuting to work or walking around your neighborhood than camping. Yet we frett about the need to carry pepper spray and other weapons. A couple points.

1. Most people are in urban and suburan areas, and that where trouble is most likely to happen.

2. When was that last time you heard about problems with bad guys while somebody was camping?

3. How many women are raped each day while walking in their neighborhood?

4. How many people are killed walking across the street each day?

5. How many people are killed in car crashes each day?


Sometimes when 3, 4, or 5 happens you hear about, but not always.

When 2 happens, big news. Why? Because it's news when something out of the common place happens.

Yes I agree that one should always be aware of your surroundings and leave if it doesn't feel right, but I have only once felt that way in a camping situation. That was in a very popular camp ground. (popular meaning crowded all the time)

Life's too short to spend afraid of your own shadow. Play the numbers game and enjoy. You might as well, cause you aint gonna get outta this life alive anyway.
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Old 03-21-2006, 01:06 AM   #18
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I too, travel mostly alone with my little dog.

I agree with all that has been said. I have always been aware of my surroundings whether traveling or not. When conversing with strangers I always use the terms "We" and "Us".

People are intrigued by women traveling alone so the word, I've found, travels through the campground very quickly. So, when I speak with the camp hosts I ask them not to let it be known that I'm alone.

Byron, you are a man and can't really relate to what we women are speaking about, not that men shouldn't alert too. It's not society scaring us, it's a fact of life that women are more vulernable.

I'm not afraid of my shadow, in fact in some cases I'm probably not as aware and concerned as I should be. If I was afraid of my shadow I'd be home on couch. As it is, I'm off Friday on a week and a half camping trip. Then this summer I'm off to Alaska for 2 1/2 months with a caravan that's going to be so loose I'll most likely be by myself 50% of the time.
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Old 03-21-2006, 01:57 AM   #19
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Rasing my children as a single female, I made the decision to buy into one of those time-share type campgrounds. For me, at the time, it was wonderful. Gated community. 24 hour security. I could take my kids and their friends, and not have to worry, or even watch them constantly (they were 8 and 11 at the time). We got to camp lots (even though it was not out in the boonies), they got to swim and run and fish, and I got to relax. I still use that membership, as the sites are located near oceans and lakes and rivers, places I go kayaking, hiking xc sking. In them, I don't have to worry about being 'alone'. The one time I was way out in the mountains, no one else around, with my 4 year old grandson, we put our sleeping pads and bags in the back of the car and 'camped out' in there...he thought it was great fun, and I could lock us in and not worry.

Out in the boonies, I don't wory so much when it is just me. I usually have my dog. I can lock my door. I do stay aware. And my dad taught me some great defensive maneuvers. I don't show that I have a lot of 'stuff' to steal. I am and act confidant, never fearful. Plus, I think the gray hair might help
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Old 03-21-2006, 05:21 AM   #20
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FOUR RULES FOR SURVIVAL

#1 - Be aware.

#2 - Trust your instincts and act on them.

Several posters have emphasized this, and they are absolutely right. I grew up on Chicago's South Side, have worked in Haiti and went through a revolution in Portugal, and those two rules have served me well.

The third rule doesn't help when you're boondocking, but useful in many other situations:

#3 - Stay away from the edge of the herd.

Predators stalk the margins - of crowds, of cities, of herds. Places where there are fewer people, less light, no witnesses. The lion never takes a zebra from the heart of the herd.

#4 - Don't LOOK like a victim!

Predators look for the easy mark. The unlocked door, the open window, the careless purse-carrier, the aimless walker. Walk tall, look decisive, and go back to #1 - be aware.
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Old 03-21-2006, 07:57 AM   #21
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Byron, you are a man and can't really relate to what we women are speaking about, not that men shouldn't alert too. It's not society scaring us, it's a fact of life that women are more vulernable.

I'm not afraid of my shadow, in fact in some cases I'm probably not as aware and concerned as I should be. If I was afraid of my shadow I'd be home on couch.
Joy,

I just can't believe "it's a woman thing". A third of my officers are women, and while I feel a concern for them, my concern is really unnecessary as they are just as competent in taking care of themselves as my male employees. Men and women who are elderly or infirm are always at risk as they can't defend themselves, but there is no reason for a normally healthy man or woman to be afraid if they make appropriate preparation and choices... and that's what this thread is about.

Being aware of your surroundings, choosing not to be a victim, and having a plan... THE three MOST important things in ensuring a good quality of life in tough times without being fearful. Whether or not an individual chooses to follow those guidelines may be a different issue; people choose every day not to do things that is of benefit to them... (not to participate in their own health care choices for example). But if you choose to be in charge of your own best interests, remain aware of your surroundings, and make good daily choices that keep you safe, you need not fear. A healthy concern goes a long way. You'll be fine.

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Old 03-21-2006, 09:04 AM   #22
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I've been following this with interest and really didn't think that I had much to add, but there a couple of things that I'd like to mention. These are just my thoughts and I think that a large part of being secure is feeling and acting just that way, so if it works for you ...

One of my concerns is women who have fictional male traveling companions. My thinking is that if I have things that indicate that a man is with me (like boots outside the door, etc) and no one ever sees him, then they might not become suspicious if they see a male around my camp or entering my trailer. When traveling in the real world, these trailers DO draw attention so that does provide a tad of security if those around you know what to expect. Although I do camp alone, there are times that my husband drops by when he's in the area. I let the campground host know when I register who he is and when he might be arriving.

Another thing is that I lock my door when I leave the campground. I know, they could easily get in, but if the door is damaged, then it's a sure sign for me not to enter.

While I don't advertise that I'm alone, neither do I try to hide it. I am a self sufficient female who's only companion is her 75 lb pup. I do miss him when he's not with me, but there are times he can't go. Because he is no longer my focus, I do find that I am a little more aware of my surroundings when he's not with me.

Also, a note to all of you kind gents who have repeatedly offered to help over the years: I didn't mean to be rude when I declined your offer of help nor was my declination a pride thing. It just a matter of if I'm going to do it, then I'm going to do it. Sure there may be times that I might seem a little awkward and I'm not beyond asking for help if I need it, but the more help I receive the less self sufficient and careful I will be. My husband had a hard time not helping me when I was hitching up to leave until he realized that his help was actually NOT helping.

I actually feel safer when I travel with my trailer behind me than when I travel alone and stay in hotels.

... one more thing. I have to admit that I was very leary in the beginning. The first night I was out, I was pretty afraid and asked myself just what I thought I was doing? Then it came to me: I was more secure there than any of the other places that I had traveled alone. I'm used to moving around in my little trailer's tight quarters and the intruder isn't.
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I always try not to look too spiffy when traveling. My intent is not to look shabby, but experienced and not worth much. A rig 20 to 25 years old is about right. Spare tire bald, but it holds air. Several nicks and stains, but nothing significant. No fancy bikes or kayaks, antennas or laptops.

I've never had anything very tense. The worst was when trying to get some sleep in a wide spot along a secondary road. A car pulled in beside me just inches away. Turned out to be a county trooper working radar. I was a pretty good blind. After the third 'hit' I moved my rig closer to the ditch so he couldn't squeeze in, and it was quiet after that.
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Byron, you are a man and can't really relate to what we women are speaking about, not that men shouldn't alert too. [b]It's not society scaring us, it's a fact of life that women are more vulernable.
I am a middle aged man living in an urban area. My bank is 10 blocks from my house. My favorite coffeehouse (Not Starbucks, but has WiFi) is 16 blocks away. I like to walk to each of these venues; because parking in the city is a pain, and because the exercize is good for me.

Three years ago, while walking home from an early winter evening's visit to both places, I was within 2 blocks of my house when I heard a strange clicking sound in my left ear. About the same instant that my brain processed this information, I experienced the most excruciating pain in my left temple, and my view of the world went completely black.

Then I heard a car engine rev up, and tires squeel, as the sound passed me on the left. Now having first-hand experience of what a 10 on my doctor's pain response survey feels like, I tried to make sense of the situation. I squinted out of my right eye, put my hand to my face, and brought it down covered in blood, plus a strange luminous green jelly liquid.

I tried to dial 911 on my cell phone, but the damn thing would not connect. I heard voices ahead of me on the sidewalk and shouted out: "Please call 911, I've been shot!"





Long story short, I had been attacked by some youths with a [b]paint-ball gun at point blank range. The police told me that there were a lot of copy-cat attacks ever since a group of kids had video taped themselves doing this, and it was shown on national television. They begged me to try to identify them, but I could not, and therefore was unable to prossecute.

I was totally blind in my left eye for approximately 36 hours. The paint-ball pellet had shattered and pieces of plastic gone into my left eye, permenently scratching my cornea.

3 days in bed, sitting up, [b]immobile, (to prevent my retina from detaching), then 3 weeks bed rest once my vision returned. 6 months of follow-up monitoring, and several different eye drops. $3000.00 of [b]out-of-pocket medical expences; (deductables and uncovered billings).

I am a middle aged [b]male, no less vulnerable than anyone else.
I still walk to the bank and my favorite coffee shop.
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Spare tire bald, but it holds air. Several nicks and stains, but nothing significant.
My wife says you describe me perfectly on the "spare tire," "bald," "nicks and stains" and "nothing significant" bits, but complains that I don't hold "air" so good any more. Of course, I always blame that on the dog.
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Circling the wagons has been the best security for travelers since the Oregon Trail days. I never stop unless there are other RVs, not even in a Wal-Mart parking lot.
So! You're assuming that all RVers are good guys and the bad guys aren't RVers. Interesting assumption.
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Old 03-22-2006, 07:18 AM   #27
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So! You're assuming that all RVers are good guys and the bad guys aren't RVers. Interesting assumption.
My personal idea on this is: Trust but verify.

IOW, I expect them to be, but I assume nothing. It all goes back to instinct.
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Bear spray???? Please explain. Thanks
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