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Old 04-09-2013, 09:48 AM   #101
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Hello David I'm mike from Ontario with a markham built 4500 .it has a front Goucho the sn is451100477 it is a 1976 you can see it on the what makes a trillium a deluxe thread you had quoted on tithe nice ranger rims .the picture was taken at the niagara wine gathering
Mike, I looked in this thread:
What makes a Trillium 4500 a "Deluxe"???
but I am assuming that you mean another deluxe discussion.

I am really interested in the year. How sure are you that it is 1976. That would make it the youngest 4500 yet. Except for the one on the shop floor of Outback, but I was just guessing at the year on that one.

BTW, I hate to ask, but did they find your stolen trailers?
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Old 04-09-2013, 03:33 PM   #102
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[QUOTE=David Tilston;376119]Rick, Could you please post a picture of your front gaucho? I am interested in if it is what I call an "almost dinette". The fibreglass seats, but no table. QUOTE]

Actually, I think I said it was a factory dinette, not a front gaucho. It definitely has the table and the double hull at the front (as well as other places in the trailer). You can see pictures I posted in 2011 of it at post #7 of this thread here: http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f55/noob-question-re-towing-w-table-up-47659.html#post262996

I have also heard back from the RVIA. They only keep records of their badge numbers for 7 years, and donít have anything going back to the 80ís, so no luck there.

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Old 04-09-2013, 03:52 PM   #103
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Yes dave that's the thread ,that's my trailer in the picture. The ownership paper I have is the original and it says it is a 76 . Also we have not found the stolen trailers yet
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Old 04-09-2013, 07:20 PM   #104
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I gotta say Rick, your dinette is not like any other I have seen. Your table is shorter, and the missing piece looks to be under the table, attached to the wall.

Mike, could you please post pictures of the inside of your trailer? I am especially interested in the kitchen.

NEW COLOURCODE
Black = Colonial White (for Francesca)
Green = Green
Orange = Orange
Blue = Front Gaucho
Red = Front Dinette
Purple = Front Bath

1300
David T:....13-2300*609.'73?: Front Gaucho *2300 = imaginary
indigodave:13-2202178...'74: Front Gaucho
Francis C:..13-1102833...'75" Front Gaucho
Glenn:.......13-1102981....'75: Front Gaucho (Feb '75)
trilliumdon:.13-2203889...'72? Front Gaucho
Unknown:...13-1104336
Booker B.:..13-1104446...'76 Front Gaucho
Reid:.........13 1104528...'78?: Front Gaucho
msinger919:13-2204603...'76: Front Gaucho
Randy B:....13-1104633...'76: Front Gaucho
michael 01:.13-2204850...'76
Randy B:....13-1105016...'76: Front Gaucho
Noreen:......13-1105085...'79? Front Gaucho
David T: ....13-1105688...'77: Front 1/4 Bath
Spanke: ....13-2205863...'78: Front Gaucho
Tonja: .......13-1106227...'79: Front full bath
Randy:.......13-1116743...'80: Front Gaucho (almost dinette)
pogophile:...13-1126837...'80: Front Gaucho (????)

4500
unknown:..45-1100180...'76?: Front Gaucho
Mikmay:....45-1100477...'76: Front Gaucho
Randy B:...45-1100483...'78: Front Gaucho
Randy B:...45-1100661...'78: Front Gaucho
Chris:.......45-1100711...'78: Front Gaucho
Francesca:45-1100758...'78: Front Gaucho
Scot M:....45-1100893...'78: Front Gaucho
LucilleL:....45-1100902...'78: Front Gaucho
Randy B:...45-1100914...'79: Front Gaucho
David T:....45-1101043...'78: Front Gaucho
kijiji:.........45-1101073...'78?: Front Full Bath
Unknown:..45-1121172...'79: Front Dinette (assumed)
Reid:........45-1101273...'79: Front Gaucho (almost dinette)
Rick G:......45-1111316...'80: Front Dinette
Roy:.........45-1111339...'79: Front Gaucho (almost dinette)
Randy B:...45-1131567...'80: Front Full Bath
Noreen:.....45-1121733...'81: Front Dinette

5500
Kathy & Doug Roach:.55-3300052
Janice M:.................55-3300098

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OscarD:.....JU3300160...'79: Front Gaucho
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Old 04-10-2013, 02:20 PM   #105
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I gotta say Rick, your dinette is not like any other I have seen. Your table is shorter, and the missing piece looks to be under the table, attached to the wall.
No, the table actually started out the same as others; it covers the entire width of the bed when placed down on the seat ledges. The previous owners were more portly than us and cut the table in half so they could get in there to sit. I simply attached the two pieces together with hinges and arranged it so it could attach just the half piece that we use to the trailer wall. This lets us use the smaller table, which we find is plenty big enough, and also just have one piece that we can place down on the seat for a bed on the fairly rare occasions when we need the extra bed. The hinges allow the extra piece of the table to hang down at the front of the trailer, so that it is out of the way and we donít have to store the extra piece somewhere.

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Old 04-11-2013, 12:40 PM   #106
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:45 PM   #107
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My Dad is back at the cottage on Manitoulin, where my second 4500, Launch Pad, is stored. He sent me pictures of the data sheet.
Only a difference of 63 from Life Support, the trailer that we use.
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Old 04-17-2013, 02:13 PM   #108
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OK update time

Richard Hayes has provided pictures of his data sheet and trailer. It is a 1974, front gaucho with a door window.
https://picasaweb.google.com/rhayesn...NSk17PWuq3fSg#
SN: 13-2202093
Furnace: Duo-Therm 11 HU
Range: Brown ZFJ002-LY
Fridge" Dometic RM-24-TF

Exterior (first digit) and Interior (second digit) Colours
1 (Black) = Colonial White (for Francesca)
2 (Green) = Green
3 (Orange) = Orange

Floorplans (third digit)
1 (Blue) = Front Gaucho
2 (Red) = Front Dinette
3 (Purple) = Front Bath

1300
David Tilston:.....13-2300*609.'73?: Front Gaucho *2300 = imaginary
indigodave:........13-2202178...'74: Front Gaucho
Richard Hayes:....13-2202093...'74 Front Gaucho
Francis C:..........13-1102833...'75: Front Gaucho
Martins HeirCon:..13-1102981....'75: Front Gaucho (Feb '75)
trilliumdon:.........13-2203889...'72? Front Gaucho
Unknown:...........13-1104336
Booker B..:.........13-1104446...'76 Front Gaucho
Reid Larsen:........13 1104528...'78?: Front Gaucho
msinger919:........13-2204603...'76: Front Gaucho
Randy Bishop:......13-1104633...'76: Front Gaucho
michael 01:.........13-2204850...'76
Randy Bishop:......13-1105016...'76: Front Gaucho
Noreen Bradshaw:13-1105085...'79? Front Gaucho
David Tilston: .....13-1105688...'77: Front 1/4 Bath
Spanke:..............13-2205863...'78: Front Gaucho
ndquiltlady:.........13-1106227...'79: Front full bath
Thinh:................13-1116743...'80: Front Gaucho (almost dinette)
pogophile:...........13-1126837...'80: Front Gaucho (????)

4500
Unknown:..............45-1100180...'76?: Front Gaucho
Mikmay:................45-1100477...'76: Front Gaucho
Randy Bishop:........45-1100483...'78: Front Gaucho
Randy Bishop:........45-1100661...'78: Front Gaucho
Chris McVeigh:.......45-1100711...'78: Front Gaucho
Francesca Knowles:45-1100758...'78: Front Gaucho
Scot M:................45-1100893...'78: Front Gaucho
LucilleL:................45-1100902...'78: Front Gaucho
Randy Bishop:........45-1100914...'79: Front Gaucho
David Tilston:.........45-1100980...'78: Front Gaucho
David Tilston:.........45-1101043...'78: Front Gaucho
kijiji:.....................45-1101073...'78?: Front Full Bath
Unknown:..............45-1121172...'79: Front Dinette (assumed)
Reid Larsen:...........45-1101273...'79: Front Gaucho (almost dinette)
Rick G:..................45-1111316...'80: Front Dinette
Roy in TO:.............45-1111339...'79: Front Gaucho (almost dinette)
Randy Bishop:.........45-1131567...'80: Front Full Bath
Noreen Bradshaw:...45-1121733...'81: Front Dinette

5500
Kathy & Doug Roach:.55-3300052
Janice M:................55-3300098
kijiji:.......................55-3320132
nick c:....................55-3320142

Jubilee
OscarD:.....JU3300160...'79: Front Gaucho
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:08 PM   #109
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Hey, Dave-

I like how you used a link in some of the owner names!
Puts us right in touch with the details they've posted about their various units...

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Old 04-17-2013, 04:25 PM   #110
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I like how you used a link in some of the owner names!
Puts us right in touch with the details they've posted about their various units...
When I do it at home, I can add the link. At work, not so much.

On edit: OK the difference was Chrome at work and Firefox at home. I have edited the list to include all the links I could find.
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:46 PM   #111
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Just a minor suggestion: keep the numeric values as well as the colours in the key, along with the position interpretation:

Exterior (first digit) and Interior (second digit) Colours
1 (Black) = Colonial White (for Francesca)
2 (Green) = Green
3 (Orange) = Orange

Floorplans (third digit)
1 (Blue) = Front Gaucho
2 (Red) = Front Dinette
3 (Purple) = Front Bath
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:51 PM   #112
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As usual Brian, good idea!

Done.

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Old 04-17-2013, 06:22 PM   #113
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You can also force the font to something with a fixed width, to keep the alignment between rows and make it easier to scan down columns:

Default font:
David Tilston:.....13-2300*609.'73?: Front Gaucho *2300 = imaginary
indigodave:........13-2202178...'74: Front Gaucho
Richard Hayes:....13-2202093...'74 Front Gaucho
Francis C:..........13-1102833...'75: Front Gaucho
Martins HeirCon:..13-1102981....'75: Front Gaucho (Feb '75)

"Lucida Console" font (with number of alignment "." adjusted):
David Tilston:.....13-2300*609..'73?: Front Gaucho *2300 = imaginary
indigodave:........13-2202178...'74: Front Gaucho
Richard Hayes:.....13-2202093...'74: Front Gaucho
Francis C:.........13-1102833...'75: Front Gaucho
Martins HeirCon:...13-1102981...'75: Front Gaucho (Feb '75)


It was nice when the software running FiberglassRV supported tables.

The list is a great thing, regardless of formatting. Thanks, David
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Old 04-19-2013, 03:03 PM   #114
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For the next update.

On (Canada) - 1973? - Trilllium 1300 - $4500
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:21 PM   #115
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Hey, when I posted my last suggestion on a PC the "Lucidia Console" part displayed in nice columns... but on my tablet the font must not be available, and the substituted font is not monospace, so it doesn't help.
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Old 04-20-2013, 02:48 AM   #116
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Cool My documentation

My trailer only had the tag under the left front clearance light. It didn't look too sturdy so I took the picture. Luckily I did because when I checked recently the tag was so weathered as to be virtually blank!

Note to Brian: Courier is a constant space font. Every letter takes up the same amount of space.
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My trailer only had the tag under the left front clearance light. It didn't look too sturdy so I took the picture. Luckily I did because when I checked recently the tag was so weathered as to be virtually blank!
Bummer! Trillium / Outback still use the closet sticker.
Looks like the modern VIN #
MANUFACTURED BY TRILLIUM RE LTD. MFG DATE: December 2008
GVWR 2000 LBS (907 KG) GAWR 2000 LBS (907 KG)
TIRES ST175/??R13 RIMS 13 X 5.00 COLD TIRE INFLATION 32 PSI (220 kPa)

VIN: 1T9BV131695(S?)948127 ? TYPE: TRAILER
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Note to Brian: Courier is a constant space font. Every letter takes up the same amount of space.
It should be, but the Courier New offered by the forum does not appear to be.
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Bummer! Trillium / Outback still use the closet sticker.
Looks like the modern VIN #
MANUFACTURED BY TRILLIUM RE LTD. MFG DATE: December 2008
GVWR 2000 LBS (907 KG) GAWR 2000 LBS (907 KG)
TIRES ST175/??R13 RIMS 13 X 5.00 COLD TIRE INFLATION 32 PSI (220 kPa)

VIN: 1T9BV131695(S?)948127 ? TYPE: TRAILER
Hey, David! Once Roger clears up the question numbers, will you start a whole new set of numbers for second-gens?

And to Roger:

Is that the only place on the trailer where the VIN appears, or is Trillium stamping it on the frame somewhere, too? I wondered if maybe it's also on the tongue, for example, as with Scamps...

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Looks like the modern VIN #
In this century, it would need to be.

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VIN: 1T9BV131695(S?)948127 ?
A VIN can systematically parsed. Here's my quick attempt:
1T9 = group of small manufacturers including Trillium RV (starting with "1" indicates United States, ending in "9" indicates a manufacturer of under 500 vehicles per year, perhaps all small US trailer manufacturers are in "T"?)
BV131 = Vehicle Descriptor Section
this is the part in which Trillium can describe the vehicle, like the first part of the old serial number (for instance, Load Trail uses the last three digits for length and axle count, which could be how Trillium RV is using the "13" and "1")
6 = check digit
95948127 = Vehicle Identifier Section, further broken down into
9 = model year 2009
5 = ?
948 = specifically Trillium RV, among the 1T9 group of manufacturers
127 = serial number
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