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Old 05-13-2013, 05:45 PM   #141
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I guess it might be nice if they would join the discussion here but I am not holding my breath that this will happen soon.
I think they would have to be out of their mind to engage with posters here.
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Old 05-13-2013, 05:49 PM   #142
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You make good points there. This all reminds me of part of a conversation I have had in private emails with Deryk, and that is I consider this whole RV experience as "some assembly required". Should it be this way ? Well, probably not. But it is, and it does not seem to matter what brand or price range we buy in....these danged things take continuous tinkering. I guess I'm lucky because I like to tinker and have a shop full of tools and the time to do it. So it's like I would say to anybody getting into this hobby....."be willing to learn about stuff you previously never thought about, and don't be afraid to get your hands dirty".
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...I consider this whole RV experience as "some assembly required". Should it be this way ? Well, probably not...
I agree on the "some assembly required" ...and it seems to go on and on at some level. Though I am not complaining! The level of fix-it items in our $125K+ (@new) Mobile Suite is waaaaaay less than the upkeep we went through for a 3 bedroom farmhouse on an acre of land! I will take trailer-honey-do-lists any day over still built one's. So a few bucks here and there to tweak something to make it more robust is ok with me.

As an FYI: I was picking up some related electrical items and i had brought in the face plate from the charger...the guy at the RV supply/repair shop said that is a high quality charger and what they replace used/broken ones with...and that it does fine with AGM battery maintenance.
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I think they would have to be out of their mind to engage with posters here.
Amen to that. Without the ignore list, I'd have left long ago.
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Is Parkliner "RVIA" certified?
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Is Parkliner "RVIA" certified?
Does not appear on the list under Parkliner.

They (the RVIA) also seem to mainly be a Lobby organization and while they talk about developing and training standards there is no detail about them that I can see?
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If you Google The Recreation Vehicle Industry Association: Standards there a a bunch of standards for electrical and propane that these units are supposed to meet to have the certificate attached to the trailer. Possibly some of these flaws are due to lack of RVIA certification? For example propane joints must be accessible for testing for leaks and free from screws or protrusions. Perhaps there are battery guidelines we can find.
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Truer words were never said.

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Perhaps some of our known electrical gurus can enlighten us with additional insight obtained from
ANSI/RVIA 12V-2011 - ASTM Standards on 12v systems which the RVIA community endorses and follows. We may find our answers there. It is for sale/download for $275 but I'm not buying.
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If you Google The Recreation Vehicle Industry Association: Standards there a a bunch of standards for electrical and propane that these units are supposed to meet to have the certificate attached to the trailer. Possibly some of these flaws are due to lack of RVIA certification? For example propane joints must be accessible for testing for leaks and free from screws or protrusions. Perhaps there are battery guidelines we can find.
It appears that the RIVA works with others to develop ANSI Standards that are incorporated into standards such as the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) 1192 Standard for Recreational Vehicles, that includes the ANSI 12V Standard for Low Voltage Systems and plumbing etc.
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I think they would have to be out of their mind to engage with posters here.
Oh Yea! but that might be worth popping another bucket of popcorn for!
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Perhaps some of our known electrical gurus can enlighten us with additional insight obtained from
ANSI/RVIA 12V-2011 - ASTM Standards on 12v systems which the RVIA community endorses and follows. We may find our answers there. It is for sale/download for $275 but I'm not buying.
Well thanks for stating the obvious.
I went directly to their website but as you say the standards are unknowable without paying up first.
Not too impressed with their motives.

It also seems that you resent someone else's experience and knowledge with an area where you are not entirely clear.
I never professed to be a Guru about anything. I have been in the Electronics field for over 30 years however and you do tend to pick up a little here and there.

I would hardly try to advise you about accounting or its regulations but I also would not mock you for your experience.
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Ed,
I did not intend any mocking, I have no personal knowledge of anyone's expertise, other than what they post here. Some members have expressed their electrical background so I asked if they may have access to something the others do not. Just like I would not expect anyone here to recite sections of the IRC, but if asked I can provide such. We are all trying to get to the answer of the issue here, perhaps published guidelines would have that answer. I may not know the correct answer but trying to find the correct way to obtain that answer is our common goal, is it not?
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Several of us have expressed our ideas here based on extensive experience designing,implementing and troubleshooting electronic and electrical circuits and have laid out several possibilities as we see them.

There seem to be no guidelines at all either proposed or enforced in this RV business that are implemented as though they are code or even agreed upon. Almost everything is ala cart and companies just do what they decide to do often defying common sense and reason.

Until we hear from the O.P. with a verdict or diagnosis I don't think this is going anywhere else.
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