solar porch light

[Borrego Dave]

Originally Posted by Casita Greg

This whole thread has become absolutely stupid.

Yup, from total darkness to a welding ark light blast with chopping wood and a few drunks thrown in the mix. Maybe the answer is understanding the type of folks that might be "camping" at your choice of a CG.....reviews can be your friend .

[ZachO]

Originally Posted by Byron Kinnaman

It's been said a darkness emitting device if often needed (pellet gun)

I have definitely taken out an alleyway light with a pellet gun. It was "ok" in the summer, but when the only tree in my yard lost its leaves, that light lit up my whole yard.

I think many cities and towns will remove individual street lights if you get a neighborhood petition. But as you can probably guess, there will be people who aren't on board.


One interesting thing I saw on the dark skies website, including only using lights when necessary, was recommending things like porch and street lights to be dim, soft, and have a shaded top so that light is focused down, where it's needed, rather than up or out. Bob's porch light may fit that "dim, soft" criteria, even though they mean it for towns, not camping.

I also have very soft solar lights I sometimes set up around camp when I'm completely alone or in settings where people are hanging out, being social, and not expecting a wilderness experience. Just enough light to point out where the trailer tongue and my steps are, and from inside laying down, you can't tell they're on. And I'm guessing if Bobs light is no brighter than them, none of us would have any problem with it.

His kinda defensive, poke you in the eye attitude about it aside, we're probably being unfair. My comments came from past experiences with campers and porch lights, shining in my windows at night, ruining my night vision when I'm walking around. If Bob's is as dim as he claims, it's honestly probably nothing that would bother any of us.

[ZachO]

Originally Posted by steve dunham

If it makes you feel better I also am not a fan of smoky campfires , bon fires , chopping wood at 4:00 in the morning , loud music or radios anytime of the day , drunks , screaming children , barking dogs , beer can littered camp sites. etc , etc.
In the spirit of the season , Enjoy you solar light .

It's all about being conscientious and courteous, and though we all have our blind spots where we do things that annoy people and we don't realize it (and going through life trying super hard not to annoy anyone is a crappy way to live), some people are just worse than others.

Many of the people who do loud, annoying stuff don't really get annoyed, or even notice loud, annoying stuff other people are doing. So it's kind of hard to blame them...Where I love silence and dark, and get bothered easily by light and noise. So I'm very aware when I'm creating light or making noise and try my best not to bother people.

[tractors1]

Some Oregon State campgrounds upgraded their electrical systems and installed new electrical post wiring boxes that have a built-in light with no off switch at each campsite. Having a blanket or tarp to cover the light doesn't help with the lights at the adjacent camp sites, tho.

[Mike Magee]

Originally Posted by k0wtz

...where we go trouting we put up with smoke campfires all night and people tending them all hours. I for one do not or have ever understood this! ...

bob

The right way to smoke a fish is slow and low. Maybe the folks who up all hours tending the fire are making tomorrow's lunch. (Not that I am so ambitious, but I saw my older brother do this on one fishing trip.)

As for those folks who shoot lights out with pellet guns... shame, shame!

[TomK]

Originally Posted by Mike Magee

As for those folks who shoot lights out with pellet guns... shame, shame!

I took that as a joke. The majority of my friends have concealed carry licenses and wouldn't take kindly to being shot at. The return fire would be punishing.

[Byron Kinnaman]

Originally Posted by tractors1

Some Oregon State campgrounds upgraded their electrical systems and installed new electrical post wiring boxes that have a built-in light with no off switch at each campsite. Having a blanket or tarp to cover the light doesn't help with the lights at the adjacent camp sites, tho.

I've avoided Oregon State Parks for about 30 years now.

[Byron Kinnaman]

Originally Posted by Mike Magee

The right way to smoke a fish is slow and low. Maybe the folks who up all hours tending the fire are making tomorrow's lunch. (Not that I am so ambitious, but I saw my older brother do this on one fishing trip.)

As for those folks who shoot lights out with pellet guns... shame, shame!

How do you keep a fish lite when you're smoking it?

[steve dunham]

Originally Posted by Byron Kinnaman

I've avoided Oregon State Parks for about 30 years now.

We've found that Oregon State Parks to be fairly priced with nice sites and clean restrooms .We have only been to Oregon once but God willing we will return . Extremely nice people and they pump your gas for you !!

[steve dunham]

Originally Posted by TomK

I took that as a joke. The majority of my friends have concealed carry licenses and wouldn't take kindly to being shot at. The return fire would be punishing.

Some of the nice thing about pellet guns is that you don't need a silencer and it's easy to conceal the muzzle flash.

[Byron Kinnaman]

Originally Posted by steve dunham

We've found that Oregon State Parks to be fairly priced with nice sites and clean restrooms .We have only been to Oregon once but God willing we will return . Extremely nice people and they pump your gas for you !!

When you're used averaging less than $10 per night Oregon State Parks are very pricey and they're very crowded.

As people pumping your gas for you, you have no choice. State law requires that a "traiined" attendant pump your gas. You're not allowed to pump it yourself. You can try to pump it yourself but the fine is around $500.

[rbryan]

Originally Posted by Byron Kinnaman

As for people pumping your gas for you, you have no choice. State law requires that a "trained" attendant pump your gas. You're not allowed to pump it yourself. You can try to pump it yourself but the fine is around $500.

Well, they had to justify the requirement somehow. Funny though that no special training seems to be required in the rest of the country - except maybe in New Jersey. [emoji23] There are other justifications of course, but the "jobs" one doesn't really hold water. Another canard: 'getting all that smelly gas on my hands or clothing'. I guess I'm doing it wrong because that's never happened to me.

[Glenn Baglo]

Here in BC the government is spending education money on teaching children "coding". Sounds like Oregon is encouraging them to pump gas.

[C&G in FL]

Originally Posted by Glenn Baglo

Here in BC the government is spending education money on teaching children "coding". Sounds like Oregon is encouraging them to pump gas.

Forward thinking, I say. Someone has to provide jobs other than selling drugs for the high school drop-outs!

[steve dunham]

Originally Posted by Byron Kinnaman

When you're used averaging less than $10 per night Oregon State Parks are very pricey and they're very crowded.

As people pumping your gas for you, you have no choice. State law requires that a "traiined" attendant pump your gas. You're not allowed to pump it yourself. You can try to pump it yourself but the fine is around $500.

I will concede we are on opposite ends of the spectrum , I have never paid less than $10 for a night of camping unless I camped in my own back yard.
As far as dispensing gas in Oregon, if you boys want to turn something said in jest into a political diatribe , be my guest.
My wife and I really enjoyed our visit to Oregon, great scenery , parks and extremely friendly people with REAL down home hospitality.