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Old 02-14-2006, 01:10 PM   #1
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John if Scamp doesn't make the bed at least 48" wide they are making the worst mistake that they can. MAKE THE BED WIDER......I have owned two 16' er's
make the cabinets 2" smaller and the bed 2" wider MAKE THE BED WIDER.
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Yes Scamp is rebuilding,We are building new plugs to make the new molds from. There will be some changes for sure,and rest assured that all will be for the good. We currently have a small crew working on the new plugs. Once we are done with the plugs they are being sent out to have new molds built from the plugs. This is being done because of space limitations now. As soon as the old building is released from the fire investigators,a new building is to be started right away. The fire is believed to have started in a dust collecter in the grinding area. The goal right now is to get the 16' shells finished first so that the custom shop can continue working and putting out trailers. Then then remaining parts for the 16 will be completed,then 13,then 5th wheel.
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Old 02-14-2006, 01:31 PM   #2
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John if Scamp doesn't make the bed at least 48" wide they are making the worst mistake that they can. MAKE THE BED WIDER......I have owned two 16' er's
make the cabinets 2" smaller and the bed 2" wider MAKE THE BED WIDER.
I will be back when my back gets better.....Larry
I would second that suggestion in a major way! My personal preference would have been for the 16'-er to be stretched an extra 12" in the back to accomodate a 60" bed. There was a survey on the Yahoo Scamper's site which listed a wide range of hoped-for changes - I think a wider bed was the most popular one there.

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Old 02-15-2006, 12:56 AM   #3
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I started discussion of a wider bed here a few weeks ago. I'm wider than I was in the late '70s, and I'm not alone in that. I could live with 6 inches less cabinet in my 16-footer, to gain 6 inches of bed width.
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Old 02-15-2006, 07:09 AM   #4
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Not to highjack this topic, but exactly what size is the bed in a standard 16 foot Scamp? I have the deluxe, and I know my bed is bigger than the standard. I've only got about 3-4 inches of counter space between the stove and the sink. Not even enough space to fix a sandwich.
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Old 02-15-2006, 07:53 AM   #5
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I guess I didn't realize that different versions of 16' Scamp had different bed sizes. My 2003 side dinette is approx. 45" x 77"
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Old 02-15-2006, 08:22 AM   #6
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Chris, the bed in my '02 is 54" wide. My counter space is the side dinette table. As you can see in the photo, in mine the stove is actually cantelevered over the bed by several inches.

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Old 02-15-2006, 08:47 AM   #7
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The space is especially tight in the side-dinette model, the front dinette/bunks version looks to have more leeway.

One solution would be to have a fold-down counter which covered the sink/stove unless you were actually using it. The Esterel we have (non-egg) does that. I can take some pictures if anyone wants to see how it works. Very handy! We never use the sink/stove so it just becomes one big counter for us.

The space crunch is part of why I would suggest stretching the body of the trailer an extra foot instead. That'd give people the extra sleeping space AND still have plenty of room for kitcheny stuff.

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Old 02-15-2006, 10:10 AM   #8
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The space crunch is part of why I would suggest stretching the body of the trailer an extra foot instead. That'd give people the extra sleeping space AND still have plenty of room for kitcheny stuff.

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Not necessarily, Mike. The 17' Casita Spirit & Freedom (side dinettes) has a larger fridge like Roger's and a 54" bed. This makes the sink/stove area actually smaller than it is in my 16'. I saved this picture from a custom delux Scamp one time. To me, it's the best of all worlds. It has the smaller fridge below the counter and allows for ample room in a 16'.
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