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Old 05-16-2014, 04:57 PM   #15
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Since hos says his manual states 2000 lbs, I think we can trust the accuracy of that. No need to debate the tow capacity.

Just about any 13' egg (Scamp, Casita, Boler, Trillium, etc.) should work, provided the hitch weight is kept between roughly 150 and 200 lbs. Simply use a bathroom scale to check it, and redistribute cargo if needed.
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Old 05-16-2014, 06:37 PM   #16
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Mike how is you little hauley doing I love my snoozy I was just saying my 2friends have 2012 and 2013 modem outback both say 2700 tow rating 200. Lb tongue weight
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Old 05-16-2014, 06:47 PM   #17
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Every time Subaru rotates the marketing manager the tow rating number gets adjusted. Sorry folks. I have just seen so much monkey business in this industry regarding TR's it's just laughable.
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Old 05-16-2014, 06:54 PM   #18
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Since hos says his manual states 2000 lbs, I think we can trust the accuracy of that. No need to debate the tow capacity.
So true and since the OP is interested in what his vehicle can actually tow there are many posts that have attempted to help him with that. Hopefully he has acquired some good info so far.
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Old 05-16-2014, 09:27 PM   #19
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Every time Subaru rotates the marketing manager the tow rating number gets adjusted.
Well its almost been 10 Years since they adjusted the tow rating on the Outback to 2800lbs or 3000lbs depending on the model and probable about the same before that for the previous rating- going back to when they first started making the Outback, so I guess they don't change their Marketing Manager all that often
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:57 PM   #20
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Since hos says his manual states 2000 lbs, I think we can trust the accuracy of that. No need to debate the tow capacity.

Just about any 13' egg (Scamp, Casita, Boler, Trillium, etc.) should work, provided the hitch weight is kept between roughly 150 and 200 lbs. Simply use a bathroom scale to check it, and redistribute cargo if needed.
The voice of reason; no doubt soon to be drowned out by The Weight Police.
Run, O.P., run!

Mike Magee is right. Go forth and tow!
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Hello, I have a Subaru Outback that I thought could tow more than 2000 pounds but that is what the manual says.

Are there any small RVs that ya'll have successfully towed with an Outback?
Have you seen the thread Trailer Weights in the Real World? - it will give you some ideas as to what brands sizes of trailers your Outback can tow.
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Old 05-17-2014, 10:41 AM   #22
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"If(sic) may also be a good bet that that Subaru is now testing to the SAE J2807 which is a test to determine if the vehicle can tow safely what the manufacture says it can".

Check out the "Highway Gradeability" section here: Tow Ratings Pass the Sniff Test - Performance Requirements - The Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) - Automobile Magazine

Per my 2014 Subaru Outback's owner's manual, the car, with the 2.5i engine and CVT, is certified to 2700 lbs. when towing a trailer with brakes.

However, it also states, "When towing a trailer on a long uphill grade continuously for over 5 miles with an outside temperature of 104 deg F or above", maximum total trailer weight drops to 1350 lbs."

While not conclusive, this would suggest that Subaru, if not actually using SAE 2807 , has considered, or something similar, it in their evaluation of towing capacity.

I will be taking my shakedown cruise towing our Little Joe from South Louisiana to the GSMNP, some 1500 miles round trip, and will post on the results.

This vehicle was purchased to tow the Little Joe; loaded ready to go at 1740 lbs. Tongue weight is at about 180 lbs. I am currently installing an 11 lb LPG tank to reduce the weight further. Hardly used anything on the 20 lb anyway. Note: The Little Joe was also purchased as the minimum that would allow my wife and I to travel in comfort and with reasonable economy. Former TV: 2004 Mazda Tribute.

With a tow capacity of 2700 and a tongue weight of 200, you can see that I am well within the limits.

I don't believe in running right to the limit of anything. I try to do everything with at least a 20% safety factor when possible. With a tow weight of 2700 and a trailer weight of 1740, I didn't ask, "What else can I load on to hit 2700?" I'm still looking for ways to lower my tow weight.

Also, I think tongue weight is determined by the ability of the cars structure to carry the load. Just my opinion. Don't take it as any more that that. ---Nod to Bob "Caveat" Miller 8-{D}
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However, it also states, "When towing a trailer on a long uphill grade continuously for over 5 miles with an outside temperature of 104 deg F or above", maximum total trailer weight drops to 1350 lbs."

While not conclusive, this would suggest that Subaru, if not actually using SAE 2807 , has considered, or something similar, it in their evaluation of towing capacity.

or it suggests they are and know its limitations! ;-)

Important to note Subaru is not advertising that their vehicles have passed the test! Actually only one of the big manufactures is currently.

If and when the test finally becomes the standard that all the manufactures set their tow ratings to perhaps we well see a down grading of the tow capacity of the Outback as well, just as we saw with a number of trucks in the two years leading up to when they were all suppose to be using the test.

The mention of extreme temps and warnings about towing in them in the owners manual isn't restricted to a Subaru either! It not uncommon when traveling in the Cascade mountains in the summer months to see many a big truck pulled over part way up on a hot day to give the truck a break. In talking with many of them they do have full tow packages and extra transmission coolers but towing on a long grade in high temps is not a nice thing to do to any vehicle.
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Small things

We tow small.

To insure towing within the temperature bounds of our tow vehicle we try to tow early in the day when it's cooler (good for the tires also). As well we have the ability to manually turn on our engine fans before we begin a hill (installed a lighted dash board switch).

These are admittedly small things but they are in a positive direction.

218,000 happy miles discovering North America over 10 years, the last 7 towing and no failures, presently joyfully in Newfoundland.

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Mike how is you little hauley doing I love my snoozy I was just saying my 2friends have 2012 and 2013 modem outback both say 2700 tow rating 200. Lb tongue weight
Since replacing the axle early last fall, I have not had any problems beyond loose screws on the door latch and striker plate. The shell seems plenty strong.

Norm, would it be fair to say that you are experiencing New-found joy?
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Mike,

You are true there.

It's 70F here, the warmest we've been since we left Florida.

In the morning we went to see one of the 9 blue whales that died in the ice this spring, shocking large.

Spent the afternoon at Norris Point harbour listening to music and skimming stones. We snacked on cod fish bites and fries.

For supper we just picked up two cooked lobsters ($16) topped it off with shortbread/lemon/coconut squares.

Now were getting ready to go out for a night of more music at the Town Hall (which seats only 150). If we can manage there's two more hours of music afterwards at the Cat Stop, a local pub.

Best this is only day two of the festival. We have a 9 course tapas meal Wednesday and a Pig Roast on Friday.

We are having a blast. Particularly happy it's warmed up. Tons of snow in the mountains and we drove by a number of still frozen lakes. The Newfoundlanders say Spring is 3 weeks late.

Back to the original post, there are numerous severe grades on the way here, though it is the downhills that concern me more than the up hills. We normally drive with our manual transmission in 4th; we did have to down shift to 3rd a couple of times. It's funny when you're going downhill, even though your speed is still 50ish, it some how feels faster going down.

The first 3 campgrounds we stopped at we were their first customers of the year.

Joy from Newfoundland....
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Norm... we test drove a 2010 CRV yesterday and followed an 04 today. I commented on the 04 being what you had and talked about your travels/towing experiences with the BH. Good to hear the trip is going well.
PS.... also test drove an Element. Very funky and roomy inside.
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Whatever....

Whatever tow vehicle/trailer you buy make sure you come to Newfoundland for two months at least once. If you can, attend the Norris Point Music festival in mid-May. You will never regret it. Live music the way it should be heard.
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