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Old 11-22-2016, 04:24 PM   #29
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Pickup trucks and sport utes are much more profitable than sedans and wagons for manufacturers that make both...you figure it out.
The more I'm thinking about this, the more this seems to me as a myth. Cars are more profitable to a manufacturer.
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Old 11-22-2016, 04:38 PM   #30
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The more I'm thinking about this, the more this seems to me as a myth. Cars are more profitable to a manufacturer.

Nope, Steely is correct. Trucks and SUVs' are much more profitable.
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Old 11-22-2016, 05:00 PM   #31
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I see a lot of people think they can compare European of the same model with American cars. I've said this before THEY ARE NOT THE SAME VEHICLE. For one just try and find a place to buy gasoline, it's difficult. They're all diesel, even the Austin Martin I looked at was diesel. So would imagine there's many more differences. So if you wish to compare apples and oranges OK, but they don't compare very well.
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I see a lot of people think they can compare European of the same model with American cars. I've said this before THEY ARE NOT THE SAME VEHICLE. For one just try and find a place to buy gasoline, it's difficult. They're all diesel, even the Austin Martin I looked at was diesel. So would imagine there's many more differences. So if you wish to compare apples and oranges OK, but they don't compare very well.
Even comparing apples to apples can be very subjective and depends on how you plan to consume them.
Let's face it... the least palatable apple ever grown is called "DELICIOUS!" (its like applesauce in a leather skin!)
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Old 11-29-2016, 10:20 AM   #33
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A little late to the discussion, but I thought I would contribute this article. I thought it explained the difference between UK and US tow ratings really well.

Tow me down!
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I read that article. But out here- in the west- towing speeds are almost always 10 mph lower than max freeway speeds. On a recent trip the fastest speed while towing I saw posted was 60 mph. I stick to the posted towing speed limits because I've never felt it was safe to go faster. I know not everyone does (I got passed by plenty of huge rigs going max freeway speed in Oregon the other day) but unless tow limits are set so that you can ignore speed limits I don't think the article really explains the difference. Yes, it is safer to tow more at slower speeds. But we already knew that.

Towing at the posted speed limit with my 2012 Forester 5-speed, probably about 2000 lbs with a 200 lb tongue weight, I got 19-20 mpg and the rig was very stable. No sway even when passed by big tractor trailers. I took turns at posted speeds (yellow "warning" speeds) and was fine. The main thing I didn't like was when the roads were rougher as I got more bounce than I like- not sure why that was. (Happens with the Campster, too- especially through sections of 5 in Seattle/Fed Way area.) I don't think I'd go much over that weight, though- for one, unless I went over the tongue weight, I'd be getting a lower % (Subaru says 8-12% but I prefer at least 10%) and because even with manual transmission it would be harder to get a heavier trailer up steep hills. I see "even with manual" because I've driven both and the automatic (similar year) is much less peppy on hills.
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...But out here- in the west- towing speeds are almost always 10 mph lower than max freeway speeds...
Depends on whether you mean legal towing speeds, or actual towing speeds. In my corner of the West- Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and Utah- legal towing speeds are the same as passenger vehicles, which is up to 75mph in Arizona.

However, in practice I have observed the vast majority of drivers pulling trailers have more sense than that, and 65mph is far more typical. Semis usually go somewhere between 65-70mph, even when the legal limit is higher. There are always a few in a big hurry, but they are the exception, not the rule.

Ironically, in California, where legal towing speeds are limited to 55mph, semis and RVs are going around 65mph (apparently with complete impunity). In other words, the strict towing law makes little perceptible difference in actual practice!
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Towing specifications are there to do two things, 1 comply with government specifications and 2 To protect the company from law suites.
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I mean legal towing speeds, which I have always assumed are there for a reason!
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