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Old 09-27-2012, 08:47 AM   #1
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The quest continues.....

In my quest to not be "eggless" anymore, I have blanketed my immediate area with all kinds of wanted ads. Last night someone called me! He is elderly and hard of hearing....here is the general gist of the conversation. His friend contacted me first (presumably because he can hear better) and told me his buddy had a scamp...the bigger one (16' I would guess) and was interested in trading for my motorcycle, but wanted to confirm I still had the bike (one of my wanted ads was a offer to trade it for a camper). I told him I had it and his friend called me back. After hearing some details of my bike, he asked how many people I wanted it to sleep. I told him four and then he said....ok...you don't want the Scamp, you want the Burro (he called me back at 1045pm and sounded semi-intoxicated....but he was funny, so I kept talking to him). I asked why he had more than one and he told me he likes to collect that sort of thing. Anyway, he said he bought it from an elderly lady two years ago. She and her husband had bought it and used it once and then it sat. He towed it home and it has been there for two years....sitting. When I asked what year it was, he said he couldn't remember....'91, '92, '98....something like that. The burros weren't made in 91 or 92 were they? While there are all sorts of red flags flying all over the place, I think we are going to go and take a look at it. Anything I would need to check on a Burro that has been sitting for the better part of 14 years? I don't know if it's stored inside or out....could be a diamond in the rough, but I am not getting my hopes up! Where do you find the year on the Burros? Obviously it will need new tires, I am more concerned about leaks....so will need to check closely for that! In any case, we are not taking the kids, so it'll be an adventurous evening with hubby! Stay posted! I will try to post pictures when we are looking (tomorrow evening) at it (the android app is SUPER easy to use).....with any areas of concern!
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:14 AM   #2
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I know I'd be concerned about the "worst" part of 14 yrs. sitting. It could be a '98 Escondido, CA-produced (1st yr) Burro in which case there will be a sticker on both the tongue (if not painted over) and on the left door jamb. If that's what it is, it's been "sitting" since new. The earlier Sac City Burros weren't produced in the 90s if memory serves. Unless I miss my guess from your description of your "trailer collector" and the pattern of use of the original owner, you will only need one photo to show the "area of concern." Never know til we try, do we? Good luck.

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Old 09-27-2012, 10:47 AM   #3
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I'd worry about the floor being rotted and or the door not being solid.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:28 AM   #4
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If it is legit and you are handy, things can be fixed.

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Old 09-27-2012, 12:08 PM   #5
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Don't know how handy i am, but i can learn.....there are super helpful folks here.....
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:20 PM   #6
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Cricket you should look at the Scamp he has as well - all sounds like an intreasting adventure if nothing else! ;-) You might want to ask if they can turn the fridge on a number of hours before you get there so you can confirm it works. Also might want to take a propane tank with you so you can try out the stove.

If you dont already have it there is a Buyers Check List worth printing off in the Documents Center here
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:21 PM   #7
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I'm wondering why an elderly guy who is hard of hearing wants a motorcycle. I'm concerned that they are trying to lure you in for some criminal purpose. I hope it's not one of those "I'll meet you in some remote location" things. If you have an address for where the trailers are I would drive by first and get a feel of the area. I'm probably being overly cautious here, but to me it sounds kind of fishy.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:50 PM   #8
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Hummm, Cricket... just don't let your excitement cause you to leave your common sense behind. Okay? Over the years, we've heard some pretty strange stories that have turned out okay. AND, I'm pulling for you. BUT, I'd take someone with me and make sure someone knew where we were going and who we're going to meet....
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:34 PM   #9
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My husband and I both work in the law enforcement field. We are fairly well versed at reading a situation and checking out somewhere thoroughly before we get out of the car....and I am not afraid to drive away from somewhere creepy...I have certainly done it more than once. I wondered about the motorcycle thing myself. I am taking cash along to buy it (he doesn't know that), and I am not taking my bike, so he won't have much to gain I don't think. Additionally, I am a black belt (which isn't fool proof), but I can inflict some serious pain if necessary.....I am not terribly worried about the meeting, but will remain cautious none the less. I am looking at it more with curiousity at this point....should be fun.
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:40 PM   #10
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Sounds like we have more in common than you know

Good luck!!
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:14 PM   #11
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The condition of the Burro made me very sad....why to people buy a trailer...park it in the weeds....and just leave it there. It was filthy dirty on the outside with moss and what not growing on it, but that could've been powerwashed. It was in a raspberry bramble, so looking under it wasn't possible and it was squeezed between a tree and an old truck, and blocked in front and back by a boat and another tree...he didn't pull it out of the weeds for us....tires looked OK (they were still inflated, but probably should be replaced). The door seal was probably good as there were about a zillion boxelder bugs in the groove around the door, but none in the trailer (until we opened it anyway). Seals around the windows looked good. The vent had three or four holes in it, so probably had water leaking into it for awhile. There were about 100 pounds of dead bugs, but again, I can clean! The carpet strip had fallen from the ceiling (nothing a little glue couldn't fix)....the back bed was under the A/C and there was a pile of seed shells, styrofoam bits and A/C filter material bits.....a little curious....but obviously something had been in there. Had the front dinette that made into a bunk and then the double bed, and it had a toilet (I didn't see a shower). Cushions were in good shape. Found the original sales receipt....$2650.00. It was used on one trip by the original owners and when they got home, the guy got sick and died, so the lady never used it again. She sold it to the current owner a couple years ago....he never used it. I started to go through cupboards....when I lifted the cover off the stove, there was a mouse looking back at me....slammed the cover down again (now the pile on the bed makes sense though). Looked in some of the outside compartments (good thing it was getting dark and cooling off) and one of them was a solid wasp nest...to which I am allergic. The mouse and the wasps and the water damage, along with the obvious damage somewhere to the A/C made me decide it was too much. The original receipt (and the title for that matter) say it was a 1990 model, 16'. So....the little Burro sits....there was some cracking on the inside walls as well.....with so much I couldn't see, I walked away and told him I had to check on some things....any advice one way or the other. He wants to trade for my motorcycle (and I don't really want it to sit and rot), so I will make a cash offer if I decide to get it. My dad says once there are mice in a camper, they are hard to keep out. I'm all for cleaning and scrubbing, but have never done the structural repair, so probably am not much good at it.....it makes me sad to leave it there.....
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Interesting situation I think time and the trailer situation is on your side and that you need more information.

I'd suggest another visit, this time taking some shears and a mat to lie on and getting a good look under the trailer. If the under parts look reasonable then I'd try and check out the trailer equipment as much as you can. If at that point you feel, at some price, it's worth pursuing let the negotiations begin.

I'd make it clear at the on-set that the motorcycle isn't part of the deal and that it's a cash deal. Seems to me that that would allow you more room to start with a low ball offer and who knows, he might go for it. But what do I know about negoiating low ball offers, my wife is the deal maker in our family

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Old 09-29-2012, 06:04 AM   #13
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It just seems to me that the shell should be fine. It is my understanding that all the cabinets are molded in, so they should be easy enough to clean. With them being molded in, the flooring shouldn't be UNDER the cabinets, so that and the carpet strip can go. The floor where I walked felt solid....obviously that needs to be checked more....the A/C is likely trashed (anyone know the opening size that makes) but I'd like to put in a fantastic fan anyway. How are the floor done in the Burrio? Are they fiberglassed like the casitas or wood like the scamps? Also...with at least one mouse inside, how likely is it that they could get between the two fiberglass walls? Ceiling felt solid. My cousin sews and obviously the cushions would be gone, but getting new ones shouldn't be that difficult. Wasps nests can be wiped out. So I guess my main concerns (assuming of course the floor is solid underneath)....are the mouse (and his friends) and the holes in the vent that obviously let water in. I will give him a call and ask if we can come back and if he'll tow it out of the weeds. He obviously isn't using it and it obviously is no longer in the condition he expected it would be....any thoughts on the mice, water and where to start on a price?
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Old 09-29-2012, 06:33 AM   #14
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Cricket, if the floor is not rotten, this sounds salvageable. It is indeed sad to see these campers shoved off into the weeds, but there is also opportunity here.

I would be tempted to show up with nice crisp $100 bills, and flash them to the owner to show that you are serious and inspire some bargaining on his part. I don't think that I'd pay over $1000, as you will spend a fair amount on replacing cushions, battery, tires, vent, etc. right out of the chute.

Given the circumstances, you don't have to worry about being outbid any time soon.
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