The RV Industry: Running on Empty - Fiberglass RV


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Old 06-18-2008, 06:05 PM   #1
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An article on Newsweek.com. We know how popular molded lightweight Fiberglass RVs are... goes to show we were all waaaaay ahead of the curve.

The RV industry is the newest casualty of the economic slump.
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:35 PM   #2
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The prices up here these big units are also coming down in price, but lots of folks are still buying. We have a great job market and anyone who wants to work is working.
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there USED to be a high end large bus conversion company in Tehachapi, California. Similar ilk and style of Marathon coach in Oregon. There can't be more than a handful of companies that do this sort of super high end stuff. (Wish I could remember the name!)

Every time I would drive by there would be glitzy custom coaches sitting outside waiting for delivery. You could almost smell the marble counter tops and brass lighting fixtures.

I noticed the sign was down when I drove by on my way up to Lake San Antonio last month. I drove through there again on Sunday and the building was stripped and something else is moving in.

That sort of thing has got to be hit hard these days.
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Old 06-18-2008, 10:03 PM   #4
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found it.. it was American Carriage but this is the "Unofficial website.

Americancarriage.com appears to be defunct now.
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Old 06-18-2008, 10:22 PM   #5
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found it.. it was American Carriage but this is the "Unofficial website.

Americancarriage.com appears to be defunct now.

My Parents have a nice 35' RV that they aren't driving much these days-at .70 a mile for gas you don't get much savings when it comes to planning trips-a lot of the time hotels are cheaper now!

I noticed that I bought approx. 1 extra gallon worth of gas for every 200 mi. I pulled the trailer home after buying it. Even at $5.50 for that gallon of gas I am getting a good deal for lodging (especially because I got to stay in the free RV parking lot at Morongo Casino in Palm Springs-no hookups, but you can't beat FREE!)

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Old 06-19-2008, 12:33 AM   #6
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Hi: I think...FWIW that while the R.V. ind. is in a slump the Fiberglass R.V. mfg's might feel a bump!!! Small is all these days!!! Does all this mean no line up at the park gates???
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:22 AM   #7
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Don't kid yourself Alf. Camping is still camping. There will just be more small trailers, crank-ups, and tenters than before, but we may be able to use those great big sites that the bohemouths used. And don't forget some of the people with huge rigs have more $$$$ than they know what to do with and don't care what the cost of gas is. To them BIG is what it's all about and they can't change. Saying that I'll keep my little 13 footer but a 15 or 17 footer would still be nice. Guess I still have 2 foot ite-is.
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Old 06-19-2008, 11:06 AM   #8
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I wish I could find the article I was reading the other day.

Basically, it said camping was DOWN. And not for why you would think.

The economy plays into it a little. It still isn't a cheap activity on the whole. Compared to staying in a hotel and airfares, yes, but when what were "normal" middle income non struggling folks last year are, this year, scrambling to eat and buy gas, even the cheapest camping trip requires thought and planning. Example..

I spent 3 days at a campground very near my house a couple weeks ago. With camp fees and gas and supplies, it was still over 100 bucks. That didn't include food, as I gotta eat anyway..

That aside, the reasoning behind the slump at campgrounds is that for areas near large cities, camping is just not a "todays" kid kind of thing. Fewer families plan this activity in favor of others. Soccer, technology, struggling to maintain the McMansions of recent development. Thats not to say it isn't done, but I have noticed over the past decade that you actually see fewer families in campgrounds myself.

That seems unthinkable to most of us boomers, but the reality of those behind us is different. WE always had the vacation camping trip with our parents in the summer and it was pretty much a right and expectation.. depending on where you grew up. (I know growing up in the Northwest.. thats what you did and if you had never slept in the rain you were some sort of deprived weird kid)

I happily, am astounded at seeing mostly empty campsites on normal lovely weekends here. The weekend mentioned above was the weekend after memorial day, the weather is perfect at this time of year in so. cal.. and I was the only person in a 40 site loop. One whole loop was empty, and the other two were *maybe* 25% used.

5 years ago, the place would have been at least 1/2 full, all around.

*WE* look at it differently, but keep in mind, this group is highly focussed on camping.. we are by far in the minority when it comes to the rest of the world and leisure time, even if it doesn't seem like it.. we get extra exposure here and it seems that that is what everyone does. But it's not.
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I guess we're buckin the trend here in AZ.
Dead Horse rangers in Cottonwood told us that this spring they broke all previous occupancy records. We just got back from the Payson area and they said they've been running at capacity most of the spring going into summer. Williams KOA was completely full on Mothers Day weekend and they said that they had been running at capacity consistently as well and had tremendous booking for summer. It has been very difficult to find a site in the local area when we go out for a weekend.

We had no problem on the other hand booking our Yellowstone and Montana campgrounds for the July trip, so maybe it is just Arizona.
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I spent 3 days at a campground very near my house a couple weeks ago. With camp fees and gas and supplies, it was still over 100 bucks. That didn't include food, as I gotta eat anyway..

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The weekend mentioned above was the weekend after memorial day, the weather is perfect at this time of year in so. cal.. and I was the only person in a 40 site loop. One whole loop was empty, and the other two were *maybe* 25% used.
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Where was that? My wife and I are going up to Dogwood in a couple of weeks.
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An article on Newsweek.com. We know how popular molded lightweight Fiberglass RVs are... goes to show we were all waaaaay ahead of the curve.

The RV industry is the newest casualty of the economic slump.
heard a rumor that the creditors are setting up offices on site at some of the larger RV dealerships that they have a lot invested in. guess they are making sure they get their cut as soon as the unit sells.
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Definitely not down on Vancouver Island. On a trip back upland a few weeks back I would say every other vehicle heading back to Victoria was a 5th wheel. Some people we know just bought one of these fleetwood 'Toy-Haulers'.

If you want to see the complete opposite of FG camping you gotta watch this video. I just thank god these are too big for our provincial campgrounds.

http://www.fleetwoodrv.com/brandtomodel/vi...x?brand=gearbox
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Patrick,

It was at Heartbar, about 20 miles the other side of Big Bear on hiway 38. Give a shout when you come up. Dogwood is about 15 mins from me.

The host at Heartbar has been there forever and she says it's been a really slow year on all weekends this year.
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It was at Heartbar, about 20 miles the other side of Big Bear on hiway 38. Give a shout when you come up. Dogwood is about 15 mins from me.

The host at Heartbar has been there forever and she says it's been a really slow year on all weekends this year.
Will do. I believe it's the 30th.

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