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Old 10-11-2015, 07:28 AM   #15
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About Escapee Parks

I certainly believe Ray, he's been to our FL home and is a really nice guy.

After his PM to me I checked all the Coop parks and found 3 of them say 'self contained RVs only'. It actually surprised me because our son's park in Washington says that and he has a 1977 Scamp 13 without even a porta potti and it's never been an issue.

A couple of parks do not have shower rooms, Oregon and The Ranch in NM, all the remainder do have showers.

I took his comments seriously and emailed both Park Sierra and Escapees about the two actions. I am awaiting responses and will report their responses.

My experience is that our park never turns away anyone at our park. If all our full and partial hook up sites and formal dry camping sites are full we create dry camping opportunities in open areas of our park.

We've been to all of the parks except one with small trailers and have never been asked if we were self contained. I suppose if asked I would have said yes even though our shower is not connected.

There are a whole series of different kinds of parks in the Escapee system.

11 Co-ops, owned by the members who set their own rules. (3 Parks say self contained or no Porta Potties)

8 Rainbow Parks owned by the Escapee corporation (None of the Rainbow Parks have a self contained policy)

1000 Private parks in the Escapee Directory that offer Escapees a discount from 15 to 50%.

Days End Directory, over 800 pages, of low cost and free parks and boondock sites.

I'm sorry Ray had a bad experience, feeling his joining resulted from a visit to our park.

More to come as I learn more..
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Old 10-11-2015, 08:29 AM   #16
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Thanks for the kind words, Norm!

I want to be clear that, for an awful lot of folks, Escapees could be a fine
choice. I like their magazine. I hear that their events are first class. The
one time that we did stay in an Escapee park, the park was very nice,
the people were warm and welcoming and many of them thought our
little Scamp13 was "cute!".

Having not read that "self-contained only" clause in the book, we were
perhaps too brutally honest when we "asked for a spot near the bathroom
because we don't have built-in onboard facilities."

At the LBL rally, I talked with a fellow who stayed in a park with published
restrictions, but the park manager volunteered "I'm not going to come
out and inspect your trailer for compliance."

I suspect that, in the past, Escapees was more focused on "full timers"
and big rigs. Now, perhaps, they are trying to become more inclusive
and truly be a "Total Support Network for ALL RVers". (I'm sure that
Norm knows much more about the history and future direction of the
Escapees organization than I do.)

Sometimes, even with the best intentions, change comes slowly.

If you have a larger trailer that meets whatever it takes to comply with
their definition of "self-contained", Escapees could be a great choice.

If you have a Scamp13 (see the first sentence of my original post) with
a porta-potti, I think that you might be doing yourselves and the
Escapees organization a real service by picking up the phone and asking
questions. That way, you both may win. They will know what you
want/need; you will know what they have to offer and what restrictions
might apply.

My unfortunate experiences were just that .... unfortunate experiences.
I have more months remaining on my membership and my mind is still
open.

Overall, I think Escapees is probably a really good organization. If you
have a small trailer and porta-potti, maybe they will be relaxing some
of the restrictions in the future? Or, and I hate to suggest this, maybe
you should be aware of the restrictions and just not be as honest as we
were.

I will be eagerly looking forward to Norm's update(s). In the meantime,
call them and maybe give them a chance. Everyone may benefit from
some open communication.

Wishing everyone safe travels and happy camping!

Ray
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Old 10-11-2015, 11:21 PM   #17
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Good advice from Ray, maybe we should call Escapees and talk to them about our needs and what they have available to meet them.

Norm, I think we are all waiting to hear what you find out. Thanks for looking into this.


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Old 10-12-2015, 08:27 AM   #18
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Or, and I hate to suggest this, maybe
you should be aware of the restrictions and just not be as honest as we
were.
Once upon a time, Advice of Counsel to me was: "Not telling all you know is not lying"..
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Old 10-12-2015, 03:06 PM   #19
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Good advice from Ray, maybe we should call Escapees and talk to them about our needs and what they have available to meet them.

Norm, I think we are all waiting to hear what you find out. Thanks for looking into this. Sandy C.


To Sandy and anyone else that feels mislead.

There are two major classes of Escapee Parks 'directly' affiliated with Escapees, Co-ops and Rainbow Parks.

Co-op Parks make their own rules and most of them have "a self contained RV rule", even though most but not all have bathrooms and showers. This was a surprise to me. It turns out that most Co-op parks say "self contained RVs only" and some have statements against Porta Potties.

After Rays PM communications I looked at the Escapee Travel guide in detail. I have travelled for 9 years to Escapee Parks, not being totally self contained. I had not been challenged even once at any of the 18 parks we visited. (Most of those visits were int he 1982 Sunline that was 25 years old, faded, the front painted aluminum looked gunshot from the Labrador highway.) Regardless of our experience there is a rule and all should know it.

Rainbow Parks rules are made by the national organization and I can find no requirement for being self contained.

Finally we have personally been very happy as Escapees. Everywhere we went the people were nice to us, the parks generally quiet with most people over 55. Some of the best travel advice has come from Escapees because most of them have traveled extensively.

The following is a link to their travel guide. It shows all parks that give Escapee discounts including the Rainbow and Co-op parks. A Park with a "50" gives a 50% discount the rest 15%.

https://escapees.com/parking/travel-guide

Sorry if anyone was mislead. I hope to get a response from Park Sierra, a SKP Co-op, and the National Escapees concerning Ray's issues sometime after the holiday.

Don't hesitate to PM me about Escapees if you like.
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Old 10-12-2015, 08:35 PM   #20
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As I stated it was a few years ago when I had joined the Escapee's and there were quite a few of the parks at that time that were listed as "self contained only".

Park Sierra is just down the road from me and it is a self contained only park. I know that because I have friends who were involved in it until recently, we've discussed that policy in depth.

I too, think they are a great organization. Maybe I should take another look at them as possibly the policy has changed at many parks.
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