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Old 05-14-2013, 02:56 PM   #253
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:06 PM   #254
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Ah late to my own party!

You are welcome Mimi...
and as always, thanks for your input Jim.

PS...being late to the party began when both my wife and i were fashionably late for our own wedding 30 years ago
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got home from work today, popped the _hood_, took a look at the batteries after plugging the rig into the 30am service. 13.6 volts going into the batteries. I think i'd enjoy having an battery monitor to look at outside the box also...
Another day's project maybe. And looking in there i think i might have come up with a solution for venting the battery area. Will do some pondering then post the what if : )

Looking into the area of box that houses the stock Progressive Dynamics PD4045 45amp distribution panel/converter system:

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Old 05-15-2013, 10:59 AM   #256
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Thom, thanks again for sharing your setup. We are focused our remedying our power compartment and will probably go after an off the shelf battery box with venting tubes built in. Not the cheapest solution but it'll get the job done fast for us, after all it's safety first. Wanted to ask if you knew why the 60amp fuses were recommended when the converter is 45amp? Not questioning the setup, just want to understand better and learn from those further down the road on this than we Thank you.
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Hi Mimi,

First a question on battery choice at this point...? Did you do the math on getting an Optima 27 that has the vent port in it? All you would have to do then is buy a few feet of properly sized tubing from your local Lowes or Home Depot and run that to a simple through-the-hull fitting available at any Marine supply store...no battery box needed.(?) If i had to do it all over again i would have asked Chandler to charge me for 2 Optima 27's and then i would vent them. When i replace the 34's i may go this way...though...today i will be pricing up the parts to fully enclose and vent the existing battery box and seal it off from the converter area. I HONESTLY enjoy doing these tweaks, so it's no biggie to me. And we have some of the best marine supply stores on the West Coast within a 5 mile driving distance so it's a marine-tech/junkie guys paradise!

OK 60amp Fuse... It was recommended because the PD4045 in our parkliner has a Maximum DC Output Current of 45-AMPS which should not be hindered...though you could (in our overbuilt, design for end of world possibility we're talking about) have protection built into the system so if the PD4045's built in over-voltage system fails the 60amp fuses should blow, thereby protecting the batteries. That, and the OPTIMA batteries can take significantly more amp current in the short go of things than even the 60amps. Putting those fuses in the system is not needed but it was a fun project . . . BUT if one put say 30 amp fuses in there, the PD4045 would blow them occasionally simply while doing its job of trying to charge the battery bank. That is all in theory any way, according to the Marine tech and also the Auto tech guys who suggested this "If you think you must" < < The tech guys really didn't see the need since the PD4045 is designed to avert this sort of battery-kill-scenario in the first place.

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Thom,
I had Chandler install a 12v outlet in the cabinet above the stove so I could keep my battery voltage/charge monitor plugged in there.

The monitor came from:
Equus 3721 Battery and Charging System Monitor : Amazon.com : Automotive

Now I just open the cupboard door to check voltage
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Thom,
We had already taken in the trailer for the battery replacement and converter diagnostic before Jim from Optima posted the information on the 27's, so money has been sunk so we have to wait until we need new batteries (and hope that is not soon!). The thinking is battery box route will also address the metal straps and having airtight compartment separate from the converter. But the space constraint a big challenge given everything else that is in that space we have a tight squeeze already, so it's fingers crossed that they'll fit. This is one project I just want done ASAP, as you can understand.

Thanks for the detailed explanation on the fuses. It was very helpful and I completely follow.

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It was great forethought to have those 12v installed in the cabin for that purpose!
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LOL Brian...i have that same type of cigarette plug voltage reader!..but your cupboard 12 volt set up was a great idea. I am also looking at an amp gauge similar to a xantrex linklite (i don't mind the $$ but would like to see just how many amps i'm utilizing on a given device).

Mimi, yea i'm with you...who would have guessed right? I'm thankful for OptimaJim's info he shared with us! Maybe in a few years we'll go that way...but after this afternoon the box will be sealed up enough to do the job short of a melt-down.

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FYI, Dyers RV seems to have a good selection of battery vent stuff.
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Search results for: 'Battery box vent'
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Thanks for the link Eddie, yes they have some nice related items.

Well today's projects included swapping out the stock shower bilge on/off switch with a water proof momentary switch. And to play around with installing a battery box vent. I think both projects were successful.

I'm still thinking all the battery tweaks were a bit unnecessary since i have at least a half dozen locals including marine techs, marine mechanics, rv techs/mechanics, and full time live aboard peeps telling me they have had the same/similar AGM Optimas un-vented inside their rigs or boats for years without issue. BUT to appease the Battery Gods...i installed a vent to the outside.

Here are two shots showing the shower switch mod:
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and a look at mounted switches inside shower area:


And here are two showing the battery box mod:
inside, showing the 3/4" ID tubing going to the thru-hull-fitting on rear wall exiting near street side tail light:


And here is the exterior shot. I put some netting on the fitting before placing the washer. My McGirlver wife approves!


Someone could argue that the interior vent hole could be closer to the top...though i think the natural convection (vent on bottom + vent on top) will assist in a natural air flow beyond what is needed. Leave it to a non-engineer to probably over engineer something as simple as a vent! I'm not saying anything i've done here is ideal or perfect...but it should do.

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You are fast Thom! We are so lucky to have a preview and idea of a solution. I also have had a chance to view your full post and wanted to say Congratulations on your trailer. Its wonderful you got to really customize it as your own. I am crazy loving the fabric you chose and the abundance of pillows. I put the dowel rod solution for holding the doors on our list of projects since that'll be a quick and easy feel good project to do. Your posting was a treasure trove of inspiration and useful information. Thanks so much for sharing.
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To Mimi
Sometimes a person wakes up to sunshine streaming through the window to start their day...
Well ours on the WET! Coast of Oregon was overcast and gloomy...
BUT, reading your kind words and kudos to Cari's & my _project_ was better than sunshine!

Blessings,
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Nice job Thom, did the connector come with the screen and what size is the hose ?
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Hi Tim & THX

The screen is just a ~2"x2" scrap of leftover no-see-um screen we purchased online. Cari put the screen over the outside male threaded end of hull fitting and then gently screwed in the ring after laying down a small roll of butyl tape...while i did the same inside...and then she pushed the exterior ring toward the back wall, while i tightened up the inside ring. Tight work, but nothing is getting past all the butyl tape!

The hose is 3/4" inside diameter Vinyl Braided Tubing from Home Dept (i had another use for it so i used it). . . but could have gone with anything 3/4" I.D. . . .that stuff was probably way overkill ! (< of course...it's me).

PS...on the no-see-um...Cari placed that on the exterior side of all window, vent & door screens in the Parkliner. We ordered 2 yards from the link above and have some left over. We had done this a couple years ago with the van conversion and it is a nice addition...rather than bugs... : )

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