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Old 05-10-2011, 06:00 PM   #43
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How long would I need to run(not driving, but just sitting idling) my TV to charge my deep cell battery up a bit?..

hehe thats another thing that will get you a big fine in my Province and I suspect a number of States as well. We are not allowed to let a car idle for more than 3 consecutive minites in a 60 minute period. Depending of the district you are in at the time, the fine can be from $45 min to $1000 max

In regards to camping without the heater running all night, keep in mind that the freash and black water holding tanks and their piping are all inside the trailer in the Scamp so the weather would have to be pretty close to or more likely well below freezing outside before they will freeze up over night - you could also add some anti freeze to the grey water tank if it was a concern. Yup my furnace at home is on auto set back at night -it goes way back - some might suggest that its actually off :-)
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I'm sorry but I would not live in such a place. I bet you cant go out in your yard pee either.
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I bet you cant go out in your yard pee either.
I heard that will keep skunk and vermin away. Does it work for you?
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I've heard that too. I've never seen a skunk down here so maybe it works. I know dog pee will kill your shrubs.
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I'm sorry but I would not live in such a place. I bet you cant go out in your yard pee either.
Hate to break it to you but you already do live in such a place! Almost half of the US states have idling laws of some kind. It looks like having lots of oil fields means they have gone light on you in that regard though! LOL You get 5 min of idle time and its only in effect April 1- Oct 31 and only applies to vechiles over 14000lbs. Be warned though there are people lobbying to have the rules tighted up. :-)

re peeing in the yard - nope we cant any more than you can if there is anyone that can see you. Like here and most developed countries it is a criminal offense called 'indecent exposure'
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Well that's what I'm saying, I have 20 acres in the desert I can pee in my yard if I want to. Idle laws are usually for big cities with pollution problems, I have neither of those. As an x truck driver I really think idle laws suck, the cop that wants to write you a ticket for idling your truck engine so you can sleep in the AC is writing your ticket in his idling car with his AC on. All in all isn't that why we left the old country, too many rules?
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Hate to break it to you but you already do live in such a place! Almost half of the US states have idling laws of some kind. It looks like having lots of oil fields means they have gone light on you in that regard though! LOL You get 5 min of idle time and its only in effect April 1- Oct 31 and only applies to vechiles over 14000lbs. Be warned though there are people lobbying to have the rules tighted up. :-)

re peeing in the yard - nope we cant any more than you can if there is anyone that can see you. Like here and most developed countries it is a criminal offense called 'indecent exposure'

WRONG.... Idling laws in the US pertain to Diesel Trucks used for hauling freight. NOT automobiles or light trucks (pickups)
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In Oregon you'd get a big fat fine for allowing gray water to just run onto the ground. There's a reason it needs to be dispursed even in BLM or our forests. And don't even think about it in any park, improved or not.

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If they get caught here in Colorado they would get a fine as well! Just cause their are some that practice this way of disposal doesn't mean it's legal!




Byron, Actually in Colorado the idling law pertains to gas powered vehicles as well. It's called the puffer law! I do believe it pertains to county's more that the whole state. But most counties on the front range have that law.
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WRONG.... Idling laws in the US pertain to Diesel Trucks used for hauling freight. NOT automobiles or light trucks (pickups)
Sorry Byron but as Robin suggests you need to check the local government laws not just the state law before traveling this summer - it might get expensive.

My understanding is that the US has the same system in regards to idling laws as we do north of the border. The State or in my case Province has a basic law in place but the local govenments can add to it or change it. An ever increasing number of local govenments have been putting in place idling laws that apply to all vehicles not just trucks hauling freight and not just in a big city. The need for cardon credits is driving the changes.

Sadly there is no one orginization in the USA that seems to keep track of all the local idling laws by state. The only document that I can find on line that list laws is dated 2006 which in todays Cardon Credit world it would be classed as *very* out of date. Even then it most probable did not include all the local laws in place at the time. But even back in 06 a number of places in the US had laws in place restricting idling in any motor vechile.

The document is here: http://www.epa.gov/smartway/documents/420b06004.pdf

I did not read it all but noted a few local laws listed within the following states: Colorado page 31, Vermont page 92, Washington Page 95, New York Page 65 to name just a few.
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""We are not allowed to let a car idle for more than 3 consecutive minites in a 60 minute period""
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Heck, many of our stop lights last longer than that and with traffic you can often sit at idle for much longer!
BTW; Without the air conditioner running my old 300 CID six cylinder truck would use less than a pint per hour at Idle, modern cars should do even better if all the claims are true.
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Floyd it takes longer than three minutes to defrost the windshield. Hell you bought the gas you should be able to use it as you see fit.
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Floyd it takes longer than three minutes to defrost the windshield. Hell you bought the gas you should be able to use it as you see fit.
Just for clarity... you do know that my last post was in response to the quote at the top of it
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Is that good or bad? I just woke up.
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Is that good or bad? I just woke up.
At a pint per hour, it would take eight hours to use a gallon of fuel,
good or bad, it's insignificant as far as overall fuel consumption , and huge in the minds of control freaks!
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