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Old 05-11-2011, 09:20 PM   #71
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Just curious.... Which mandatory features are you talking about that are arbitrary & dangerous?
You would, of course, have a right to disagree, but ...

I want consistent and predictable brakes which do nothing but brake, controlled by a foot pedal.

I want a consistent and predictable throttle which is controlled by the driver through a direct connection to a foot pedal.

I want consistent and predictable steering which responds directly and proportionally to the driver's input from the steering wheel.

I want a safe passenger compartment without the threat of assassination or grievous harm in the event of a fender bender.

Each of these have been illegal since at least 2008.
Each could spark a contentious dead end discussion.

Tangentally, I would prefer to be responsible for my own tire pressure and not have to spend many hundreds extra when choosing tires and wheels.

My big brother was a competent mechanic whose advice was sage...
Orwell's is not!

I apologize for my part in aiding and abetting the hijacking of this thread.
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Old 05-11-2011, 09:36 PM   #72
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Don't make me come over there....

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ha ha, it was a Rio, or that other bottom of the barrel car they have.
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Old 05-11-2011, 09:51 PM   #73
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Floyd,
Well put and I understand where your coming from. We don't have to agree, but I did want to hear your opinion. Thank you.

My bad too... for contributing to the hijacking of this thread.... sorry bout that.
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Old 05-11-2011, 10:32 PM   #74
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ha ha, it was a Rio, or that other bottom of the barrel car they have.
Well...O.K....

All is forgiven!

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Old 05-11-2011, 10:37 PM   #75
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Moving along to something more dignified...

HELLO ?

BAJ ?

Are you still there?

Your friends,

US !
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:35 PM   #76
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Turning off the furnace at night is ok is milder temperatures. There's a couple problems with doing this. One, if it's really cold you end up with frozen plumbing inside the trailer. Two, depending on how cold you can expect it to get you'll need several different sleeping bags rated for different temperatures. Where we were in Big Bend with the temperatures dropping to 5 degrees everything inside the trailer would have been frozen if we didn't have the furnace on.
We bags rated for around 50 degrees and set the thermostat for that. If temperature stays above the furnace doesn't come on, if it gets colder it comes on.
I have a hard time understanding why people want turn off the furnace at night. Do you turn off the furnace at home at night?
Actually, we do turn off the furnace at home at night. We're in bed, no need to waste gas!

Regarding the travel trailer, I forgot that I own a Bigfoot with a winter package. Sorry! My pipes are encased in fiberglass and the cabin is double insulated. As a result, I was very comfortable camping in the Rockies with a malfunctioning heater and only sleeping bags to keep me warm. And the reason I bought a Bigfoot over a Scamp or Casita is that I planned to do winter and spring camping in colder climates.

My propane heater is controlled by a thermostat. However, I do feel uncomfortable keeping it on all nite. For one thing, I want to conserve the Propane gas. Secondly, safety concern: I want to wake up in the morning.
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:41 PM   #77
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Floyd, I will disagree with you a bit... My 2009 Scion (sub $20k car) brakes, handles, and keeps traction better than my mid-80s Mercedes could ever hope to do... And it costs less to maintain. Also, the mechanical throttle linkage was forever sticking in the Mercedes. Once, I had to reach down and pull the pedal off the floor. Of course, it only takes a floor mat to stick a pedal down, right? The Benz was considered a marvel of modern technology, but I know I can avoid many more dangerous situations in my current econobox since it has these newer safety features (nearly all of which were pioneered by Mercedes, I should say).

To a certain extent, it seems like each generation believes that what they are familiar with is the best, and anything newer is not necessary. Antilock brakes have done wonders for reducing accidents, and stability control is going to overshadow ABS quite a bit. The thing about these features is that they do something the driver cannot -- in the case of ABS, they pump the brakes faster than any human, and in the case of stability control, it can brake any one wheel in order to bring the axis back into alignment with the direction of travel. My tractor has independent brake pedals for each rear wheel... My car does not.

Some things seems excessive to me... Like headlights that aim themselves based on info from GPS satellites. Maybe I'm just getting old.
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Old 05-12-2011, 01:31 PM   #78
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Close to freezing should be OK. You're 16' is a bit bigger than my 13' so in very cold weather you'll probably use a bit more propane than I. When I was in Big Bend National Park the temperatures got down to 5 degrees at night and near freezing during the, I keep the thermostat set at 55 at night and at about 67 during day. Under those conditions a full tank lasted about 3 1/2 days. If you're just getting down to freezing at night and warmer during the day you shouldn't have any problems.

I know that some people turn off the furnace at night, but not me. I have the furnace to keep my trailer warm day and night. Not as warm at night, but I don't allow it to freezing or below either.

We do us sleeping bags. Individual bags are warmer than blankets and provide both top and bottom insulation.
We tent camped at Big Bend in the month of March. It was so nice sightseeing all day and stayed around 75degrees all day.
WELL-Around 5pm the temp started plunging to 50 and that night it dropped to about 26 degrees. We froze in that tent. Of course we had summer sleeping bags. Whenever I Hear Big Bend I think of that night.
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Sounds just plain lazy and uncaring to me.

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My 2 cents----Ive been tent camping for 50 years in almost all the states.
At night ,I let my yellow water go right on the ground ,usally behind a tree. I think all the bears and other animals have been doing that since birth. Dead animals lay on the ground and rot away usally after other animals have torn them to shreds.(called the food chain). So come on all you earth lovers, your overdoing the grey water thing. Do you really think your hurting the evironment with water that you could drink if it was a matter of life or death. I'd be more worried about oil dripping from your car and the chemicals the chinese are putting in your trail mix.
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Come on group play nice. There's no place on this forum for politics or flaming anyone. Y'all know better.
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Dennis dont think anyone has a issue with your approach to dealing with yellow water providing you are not doing it in the middle of a heavy use state/provincal park! :-)

The issue I have with grey water being dumped is that it all to often has food matter in it and its not a pretty thing to see a pile of waste beside your camping spot when you find a great camping spot. Not to mention the great many flys and other wild life you may not want around that it attracts. Yes it happens in the wild with animals but that is natural and not avoidable - dumping large volumes of water we packed in and dirtied with food and grease is not natural and is very avoidable when using a trailer.

I was taught to "leave no trace" and to "pack out what you packed in" so that we all get to enjoy the same natural experence.
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Come on group play nice. There's no place on this forum for politics or flamming anyone. Y'all know better.
Donna,
Sorry it wont happen again .I got carried away.Bad me.
(but they are overkilling the grew water thing) I think the earth can take it.
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Carol, if your Grey water has food particles in it then it is now Black water, ask your local septic guy or your local health inspector. I know that sounds stupid but we have two small restaurants closed by the health inspector because of Black water right now waiting on proper septic systems.
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Sorry it wont happen again .I got carried away.Bad me.
(but they are overkilling the grew water thing) I think the earth can take it.
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Me sorry too Donna!
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