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Old 05-17-2011, 12:07 PM   #113
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They moved them.
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Old 05-17-2011, 12:17 PM   #114
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Does anybody know where to? I asked about it this morning and haven't heard back.
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Old 05-17-2011, 12:22 PM   #115
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Something about the cardboard water heater.
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Old 05-17-2011, 12:26 PM   #116
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No title like that in the mods/help forums-
How about posting a link so Baj can find it?

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Old 05-17-2011, 12:39 PM   #117
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Thread now titled : Water Heater wet cardboard in Problem solving:

Water Heater Wet Cardboard (split from Drycamping Tips)
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Old 05-17-2011, 12:42 PM   #118
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Old 05-17-2011, 01:39 PM   #119
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Thread now titled : Water Heater wet cardboard in Problem solving:

Water Heater Wet Cardboard (split from Drycamping Tips)
Thanks, Carol

I guess I should have looked for keyword "Water Heater" instead of "Cardboard"

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Old 05-17-2011, 03:01 PM   #120
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Dawnbreaking department:

It suddenly occurred to me WHY Frederick split the Soggy Mess question away from this thread-
Didn't Baj entitle this one "DRYcamping tips..."?

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Old 05-21-2011, 05:55 PM   #121
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I sorry but I resent that remark about backpackers. I spent over 30 years backpacking and the total amount of gray water I produced during that time was far less than many RVer produce in a week-end. it was always proper dispersed in a location away from surface water. Those us that really care manage to find ways to minimize out impact. No trace camping is correct phrase.
Years ago when we dry camped in northern Minnesota, we filtered our grey water through a pair of panty hose into a 5 gallon bucket and used it to put out our campfire. A Minnesota DNR officer said grey water did far less damage than a forest fire and that he had no objections to our use of grey water.

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Here in Colorado the Puffer Law pertains more to people being with the vehicle. You can not let a car idle unattended. AT ALL! People get tickets for it all the time here. You have to be within the vehicle. So allowing your window's time to defrost is ok, it's just letting your car warm up all alone is a huge no no.......... Guess they figure if your sitting in it, you won't let it idle as long as you would if you start it and let it run for long periods of time.
Good thing the cops never drive down my block! Please don't tell them to start.

I'm completely new to this RVing thing, but not camping, so finally a topic I can weigh in on!

As for the grey water issue, and camping in general, it is important to research local regulations. There could be complete fire bans, or maybe just fire restrictions that need you to have a fire pan or similar equipment. Here, sometimes only a propane stove is allowed, not even charcoal. Violate a fire ban around these parts and people get real upset. There probably are regs about grey water wherever you camp, but don't assume what they are (as many in this thread have). Anyone who's done a lot of river trips probably has been required to do the exact opposite of what many here are saying. On the rivers I have rafted, you filter out food particles, you use a groover for #2, but all grey water and even urine goes right into the water, NOT away from it. And while that is extreme, I have seen a variety of regulations.
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On the rivers I have rafted, you filter out food particles, you use a groover for #2, but all grey water and even urine goes right into the water, NOT away from it.
That's a joke, right?

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No, that's not a joke. Dilution is the solution.
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Yep, no joke. For ex, that is the requirement for rafting in the Frank Church Wilderness, the largest wilderness area in the lower 48. You would do more damage by not putting your gray water and urine in the river. Dilution is, indeed, the solution.
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I put an inquiry in to the Colorado State Dept. of Water Quality regarding the above remarkable assertions. No reply as yet.
Meanwhile, behind-the-scenes forum participant Brian B-P has provided a link to the regulations for the Frank Church Wilderness: http://www.fs.fed.us/r4/sc/recreatio.../userguide.pdf
Here are some excerpts:

Note: "Human waste" means both kinds.
Human Waste:
page 17 Be responsible for human waste. When traveling overland, bury feces. When floating the rivers, use the available pit toilets or pack it out in sealed containers.
page 19 9. Human feces from campsites without pit toilets must be hauled out
page 22 All (rafting) parties are REQUIRED to have portable toilets or other means for packing out human waste. A dumping station is provided in Riggins and at Newland Ranch.
Greywater:
page 19: 6. No soaps or detergents allowed in the hot springs, rivers, or side streams. Wash and rinse well away from water sources and camp areas, using pans or buckets. Dispose of water at least 200 feet from rivers or streams.
END QUOTES
Since the rules don't specify a method for greywater disposal, common sense must be applied. Best nuisance/vector control is achieved by using existing fire pits or temporary shallow holes which are backfilled and tamped before leaving the site.

If/when I hear from Colorado re. other rivers in its jurisdiction, I'll post the information.

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