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Old 12-14-2008, 08:20 AM   #1
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We have been hearing that the CHP recently was not allowing folks with 4 wheel drive thru chain control unless they were carrying chains. Some friends have been turned back at the Bear Valley Ski Area. So we went to Les Schwab yesterday and bought some tire chains, since we plan to go over the Siskiyou Summit this weekend. This may be a change in policy, as I've never been asked about chains in the last 16 years of owning a 4 wheel drive.

Frosty is no longer with us. Some of you may remember him wandering aimlessly around the kiosk at the Oregon Gathering. Frosty loved camping and went on every trip since we got our Casita in 2002. He has been with us since 1993 and sadly reached a point where he could no longer get up and go. We will miss the old boy. I'm going to keep his photo as my avatar, if that's OK.
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:42 AM   #2
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Sorry to hear about your loss with Frosty.

What is it with chains anyway? Living here in Manitoba, the capital of winter (-41 C with the wind chill this morning), no one uses chains. Maybe the warmer mountain passes have wet, deep snow, but everyone here manages to get by without chains. Maybe it's the dry cold 8-) here, but lots of folks don't even use snow tires. So, is it a cultural thing, or is it different conditions? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:19 AM   #3
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I am SOOOO sorry about Frosty. As a dog person, words do not say what needs to be, or explain what is. Keep Frosty in the avatar, we all want to remember him and hope we will see him at "The Bridge" with you one day.

Tire chains..

It's not a change in California. 4wd does not get you a "pass" here, and living in a mountain area.. I appreciate the law. Don't get me started on the 4wd over confidence of someone who lives at the beach 364 days a year, and then brings thier 4wd Lexus up to ski thinking equipment is more important than skill and experience.

We have 4 "R" conditions. R1 requires chains be carried on 2wd, but not necessarily installed, R2 is chain up 2wd, R3 is carry chains in ALL vehicles, regardless of the drive train, and R4 is chains on all vehicles.. 4wd or 2....or towed.

Cam, I suspect conditions are the reason, our snow is sloppy wet and freezes, the infrastructure is poorly equipped for it (Few plows, little sand and cinder etc) No. Cal is different, it's snowy there all winter, but the central and southern passes only get hit a couple times a year and the resources to make it like your area all the time just are not there.
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Old 12-14-2008, 10:36 AM   #4
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So we went to Les Schwab yesterday and bought some tire chains, since we plan to go over the Siskiyou Summit this weekend.
Check with ODOT first, the weather has turned snowing and blowin' all over Oregon and it wouldn't be unusual if ODOT closed the Siskiyou's. It's not a place you want to get stranded.

"SISKIYOU SUMMIT SB REPORTING STATION
Severe Weather Hazard


Weather Condition: Snowing Hard and Continuously

Road Surface: Packed Snow

Current Chain Restrictions: Carry Chains or Traction Tires

Current Temp: 30 F

New Snow: 0 in.
Roadside Snow: 5 in.

Last Updated: 12/14/2008 07:52 am

from here: http://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/RCMap.asp?m...mp;curRegion=7#
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Old 12-14-2008, 11:07 AM   #5
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Bob, I am very sorry to hear about Frosty. It is so hard when we lose our animals, they really are a part of the family. Hang in there.

As for chains, I was also wondering if it is a locality thing - I've never used them here in AB, and we don't see people driving with them at all. Heck, I don't even know if it would be legal to drive around with them on. Maybe just a mountain pass thing?

BTW Cam, we've go you beat this fine morning ... -43C wind chill
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Old 12-14-2008, 11:07 AM   #6
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They often say 4WD has to carry chains. I always carry chains when I travel in the winter and knock on wood, have never put them on. Luckily I do know how just in case I have to!
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I lied, but not on purpose. There is no R4.

California Chain laws from DMV

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Requirement One (R1): Chains, traction devices or snow tires are required on the drive axle of all vehicles except four wheel/ all wheel drive vehicles.

Requirement Two (R2): Chains or traction devices are required on all vehicles except four wheel/ all wheel drive vehicles with snow-tread tires on all four wheels.
(NOTE: Four wheel/all wheel drive vehicles must carry traction devices in chain control areas.)

Requirement Three (R3): Chains or traction devices are required on all vehicles, no exceptions.
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Old 12-14-2008, 11:27 AM   #8
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Yes its a locality thing. They dont have a lot of snow clearing equpment. A lot of ski traffic is from a warmer no snow area thus, unaware that 4 wheel drive means 4 wheel slide. Living in colorado nobody used chains there either. The roads were cleared with equipment right away.
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Old 12-14-2008, 01:35 PM   #9
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I live in the country, ie gravel roads. Unless you are on a school bus route, they don't get cleared all that often; but they do ice up. If snow depth is an issue, ie, clearance, chains don't seem like they are going to help much. I can see experience being an issue, since we have the pleasure of driving in snow at least 4-5 months of the year. (I know, I know, Why?) Maybe it's the altitude, since it's flat as a plate around here, and the bottom of the ditch is the furthest you're going to plunge. Any prairie type seen the mountain pass conditions that require chains? What's your analysis?
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we've go you beat this fine morning ... -43C wind chill
Just in case any one is interested -40 is where the temperatures meet. -40 is just as cold in the USA as it is in Canada.
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Sorry to hear about Frosty, Bob. Sounds like he was a good dog.
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Thanks to all for the info and kind words. I should have said we will be doing the Siskiyou Summit next weekend, sans trailer. Maybe conditions will be a little better then. Our motto: "Dress in layers, wear sturdy shoes and carry chains!" ;-)
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Bob, sorry to hear about Frosty as well. My condolences.

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Bob, I am very sorry to hear about Frosty. It is so hard when we lose our animals, they really are a part of the family. Hang in there.

As for chains, I was also wondering if it is a locality thing - I've never used them here in AB, and we don't see people driving with them at all. Heck, I don't even know if it would be legal to drive around with them on. Maybe just a mountain pass thing?

BTW Cam, we've go you beat this fine morning ... -43C wind chill
What was your air temp this am? We hit -20 air temp...plus wind chill! ouch!
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