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07-23-2011, 11:33 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Jason
Trailer: 2007 Eggcamper & Homemade Tear Drop
New York
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Torsion axel ?
How do you know when a torsion axle need replacing? I just bought a U-Haul ct13 camper and If they do need replacing where can I get axles for it?
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07-24-2011, 09:30 AM
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Trailer: 16 ft Casita Spirit Deluxe
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Not sure how to gauge the axle for wear but many have mentioned Redneck Trailer Supply for their Torflex Axle. My friend who owns and RV Store uses them exclusively for all his axle buys...... their should be a number or tag on your axle somewhere that would supply a replacement. you could also call them to ask about wear on your old axle or if a new one is needed.
Others on here will probably help further but this is a start.
Joe
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07-24-2011, 09:43 AM
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Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
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Try the hand fist test. Put an upright fist on top of the tire. It shouldn't touch. Even if it doesn't have someone go inside the trailer and right over the axle have them jump up and down (takes someone of weight...not a child). Observe the axle from underneath, do the arms on the axle move? If you know the hitch height at time of manufacturer, has it changed, some.. alot?
How does it tow? Bouncy or steady and is stuff where it belongs when you get where you're going or is some all over the floor?
If you decide a new axle is needed, get one with brakes... you'll never regret it!
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
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07-24-2011, 11:18 AM
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Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
Try the hand fist test. Put an upright fist on top of the tire. It shouldn't touch. Even if it doesn't have someone go inside the trailer and right over the axle have them jump up and down (takes someone of weight...not a child). Observe the axle from underneath, do the arms on the axle move? If you know the hitch height at time of manufacturer, has it changed, some.. alot?
How does it tow? Bouncy or steady and is stuff where it belongs when you get where you're going or is some all over the floor?
If you decide a new axle is needed, get one with brakes... you'll never regret it!
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Who's fist and which axle?
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07-24-2011, 01:44 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kirkman
How do you know when a torsion axle need replacing? I just bought a U-Haul ct13 camper and If they do need replacing where can I get axles for it?
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Hi, Jason
There're a LOT of discussions about axles here at the forum, and a re-e-e-e-ally long one was going on earlier this year.
Joe from Bloomington chimed in with very simple directions re. checking your torsion axle for wear/life.
It's so simple, even I understood his instructions!
Check out his posts, beginning with #55, on page 4 at http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...e-42849-4.html
Francesca
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07-24-2011, 01:50 PM
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If you replace the axle... NOW would be the time to get away from the U-Haul proprietary wheels. You might be able to sell the wheels to help offset the price of the axle too.
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Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
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07-24-2011, 02:39 PM
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Trailer: U-Haul CT13
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I believe uhaul still sells the torque axle for the camper and the hubs too
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07-24-2011, 02:46 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce Thomas
I believe uhaul still sells the torque axle for the camper and the hubs too
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Which reminds me...
I'm not sure how relevant to older U-Haul travel trailers this is, but for what it's worth, here's a current cargo trailer torsion axle inspection video...
It should be noted that most of our torsion axles don't have replaceable spindles like the axle in this video.
Francesca
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07-24-2011, 04:18 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jason
Trailer: 2007 Eggcamper & Homemade Tear Drop
New York
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Thanks for all the help guys!!!!
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07-25-2011, 12:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Francesca Knowles
here's a current cargo trailer torsion axle inspection video...
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A good demonstration of how little torque needs to be applied to (presumably roller) bearings - he could just undo the nut by twisting the socket in his hand!
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07-25-2011, 01:03 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
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NEWS FLASH!
Attention all U-Haul owners!
Don't order a new axle quite yet...
Perhaps alone among trailer makers back in the day, U-Haul DID put axles on with replaceable spindles!
The document center here has two very comprehensive U-Haul publications, one for parts and one for service.
Page 21 of the parts PDF at http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/d...artsManual.pdf indicates that the hub/spindle assembly was (is?) available as a replacement part.
Good for U-Haul!
At least in the suspension department, their trailer has moved to #1 on my list of best-designed trailers.
Francesca
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07-25-2011, 01:25 PM
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Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
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All well and good if spindles are damaged by worn bearings, etc., but the rubber portion of a torsion axle is not replaceable without replacing the entire axle.
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07-25-2011, 01:57 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Francesca Knowles
Trailer: '78 Trillium 4500
Jefferson County, Washington State, U.S.A.
Posts: 4,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Donna D.
All well and good if spindles are damaged by worn bearings, etc., but the rubber portion of a torsion axle is not replaceable without replacing the entire axle.
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Hi, Donna
Most of us have the "Disposable Dexter" or a predecessor to it, which must be replaced entire if any part of the axle is damaged.
It's my understanding that spindle damage/failure is the most common problem with torsion axles, and the U-haul allows for replacement of that part.
Rubber failure is less common, and in U-Haul's case, "axle" replacement allows for the use of existing spindles, if sound.
FlexirideŽ also makes a torsion axle with serviceable/replaceable spindles.
I like components with serviceable parts, so I like these setups.
But each to his own!
Francesca
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07-25-2011, 06:08 PM
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Trailer: U-Haul CT13
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The uhauls hub is a sealed unit rarely needing replacement....its alot like whats on the rear of a gm car about the size of a celebrity or pontiac 6000 etc....It's overkill if anything but really nice units.
People have tried adding grese fittings to them among other things thinking they needed it and it led to failure far as i remember....Theres one gal with a 16ft that had a failure i believe of one ......its really not common for them to fail..............now the torsion rubber could age right along with any simular units on many trailers, nothing special there.
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07-25-2011, 06:55 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1988 16 ft Scamp Deluxe
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Francesca Knowles
It's my understanding that spindle damage/failure is the most common problem with torsion axles, and the U-haul allows for replacement of that part.
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In the years I've been a molded trailer owner and a member of this forum, I've only heard/read about one trailer where the spindles needed to be replaced, and that was due to a bad bearing. So, I wouldn't call that the most common problem. The most common problem and reason for replacement seems to be the rubber wears out and/or hardens to the point the axle no longer has any travel space. YMMV
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