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Old 08-03-2017, 10:19 AM   #15
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I bought my Scamp used in FL on Craig's List. Last year there was a barely used Scamp 16 at a car dealer slot for $7000. They are available.
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:37 AM   #16
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In Feb. Up North most all camp grounds are close tell May 1 in Mn., Wi. March in Iowa Il. so pick up late Spring so you can test it out a few days. + you may hit ice snow tell May.
In Minnesota many of the major Minnesota State Park campgrounds are open year round (Mille Lacs Kathio [closest to Scamp], Itasca, Lake Bemidji, Gooseberry, Jay Cooke, for example). Some others are usually open April 1, with a few not open until May 1. The nearby overflow campgrounds usually open June 1, but that's because their neighbor State Park is full by then.

US Forest campgrounds are usually open if the snow is gone and you're brave enough to take the road to get there.

We've camped in March a few times and had no problem getting a campsite. In fact, we've never seen a campground in Minnesota even half-full before April 15 and rarely before May 20.

Of course, if you're talking commercial campgrounds we wouldn't know, because we avoid them like the plague. We call those places ghetto's.

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Old 08-03-2017, 11:41 AM   #17
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Hello everyone...first post here. I'm a total newbie to the RV world but looking to get a rig and get on with exploring the country. You could say I'm having kind of any early life crisis having turned 30 and slowly balding (yikes!). I have this extreme desire to travel and make memories as it feels like time is rolling quicker than I'd like.

Anyways, I am interested in a 13ft Scamp to pull with my 2005 Ford Escape. I contacted Jim at Scamp asking about current pricing and deposit information. Wow these things really hold their value! Normally I buy used whenever possible, but it seems like the comparable used units are selling for just a few thousand less than a new one. Jim told me that they require a $500 deposit but that it is refundable should I decide to cancel the order. Build completion date as of today - February 2018.

I have 2 questions:

1) Can anyone confirm that the deposit is truely no risk and totally refundable should I decide to cancel the order. My plan is to put in an order and continue to monitor the used market. Should I find a suitable used unit used, I could cancel the order and if I don't find a unit by February than I'll have one ready to purchase new.

2) I know this is broad question but if anyone has any tips/suggestions just in general, let 'em fly. As I said, I am a total newbie in this department, but I am reading up on the subject online.
I put the deposit on a Scamp in November 2015 for Spring pickup...I had to cancel, which I did in April of 2016, and I had a refund in a few days...I think they are good people at Scamp...I sill like the Scamp's and I'm still considering getting one in the future...
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Old 08-03-2017, 01:58 PM   #18
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I got a full refund from Scamp, when I decided to go with Casita. My understanding is, as long as you ask BEFORE production starts, Scamp is very generous about refunding your $500.

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Old 08-03-2017, 06:26 PM   #19
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Hello everyone...first post here. I'm a total newbie to the RV world but looking to get a rig and get on with exploring the country. You could say I'm having kind of any early life crisis having turned 30 and slowly balding (yikes!). I have this extreme desire to travel and make memories as it feels like time is rolling quicker than I'd like.

Anyways, I am interested in a 13ft Scamp to pull with my 2005 Ford Escape. I contacted Jim at Scamp asking about current pricing and deposit information. Wow these things really hold their value! Normally I buy used whenever possible, but it seems like the comparable used units are selling for just a few thousand less than a new one. Jim told me that they require a $500 deposit but that it is refundable should I decide to cancel the order. Build completion date as of today - February 2018.

I have 2 questions:

1) Can anyone confirm that the deposit is truely no risk and totally refundable should I decide to cancel the order. My plan is to put in an order and continue to monitor the used market. Should I find a suitable used unit used, I could cancel the order and if I don't find a unit by February than I'll have one ready to purchase new.

2) I know this is broad question but if anyone has any tips/suggestions just in general, let 'em fly. As I said, I am a total newbie in this department, but I am reading up on the subject online.
Have you considered a Casita. They are very nice units and from what I'm seeing on this forum have better options or are better made. Seems like a lot of complaints on Scamps. Almost all Casita's have a bathroom with at least a toilet. They also hold their value well. So far with all the Casita campouts we have gone to no one has had any complaints on their unit as far as problems. We spent a night in TX when we got ours and the only thing we found was the screen door drug a little so the next day they adjusted it and we are happy campers. We have a 2007 17' Casita. Check all your options on brands and quality. Some people don't mind not having a toilet, a furnace, a hot water heater or good fridge. I consider those necessities. Write down all you wants and then purchase.
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Old 08-04-2017, 12:02 PM   #20
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Lifting geek,
I have nothing against Casitas. I had my son's Casita 16 for a year and bought a Scamp 16. Both rigs met the need but the Scamp 16 was taller inside by 3 inches, looked bigger inside because it had a side bathroom and was lighter to tow, an important consideration when towing with our 4 cylinder tow vehicle. We were e at a Casita rally in TX and virtually every Casita owner asked if we had a Scamp 17.

Both the Casita 16 and the Casita 17 are nose heavy, but particularly the Casita 17. There is of course no Scamp 17.

I think both companies make quality products, actually at one time both companies were located in Backus, MN.

As well since you're tested in a 13, I don't believe Casita makes a 13 any longer. You're also seeing Escape giving up short trailers, I believe recently dropping the Escape 15.

Wish you well in your selection. We've now traveled in 3 different small trailers, from our perspective it's not about the trailer, I loved them all... Love the one your with.
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Old 08-04-2017, 05:19 PM   #21
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Tommy/(liftinggeek),

If you ask, you might find a difference between the delivery date for a Scamp Standard and a Scamp Deluxe. At least that was my experience.

I would highly recommend attending a fiberglass rally to help with your decision making.
There is a usually excellent rally just south of Paducah in early October called "LBL - Land Between the Lakes". They have cabins for rent at Piney Campground, so you don't have to already own a trailer. At most rallies, there is usually an "Open House" day where you can have the opportunity to see and step inside many brands and sizes of trailers. You can also visit with the owners about what features they like and about their experience with the manufacturer.

I don't think you mentioned what engine you have in your 2005 Escape or what it's tow/tongue weight ratings are. Those ratings will likely tell you whether a 13 or 16+ foot trailer is best for you at the present time.

I also don't think that you mentioned how many adults/kids you want to be able to sleep.


Many older Scamps and current molded/Standard 16 foot Scamps have a 44" wide main bed. Deluxe Scamps and newer (2013+?) 13 foot Scamps may have a 54" standard/double bed. Side dinette versions can sleep 1 additional person. Front sofa/bunk-bed models can sleep 2 additional (1 adult + 1 child?).

Good luck on your decisions!

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Old 08-04-2017, 05:34 PM   #22
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Scamps enjoy a low initial price in part because stock they are stripped. Things you would think would be standard on a camper in 2017 like a furnace, refrigerator, gray water tank, black water tank, toilet, awning, AC, LED lights (last I knew) are all extra.

Scamp is still a good deal but I would get the factory options you want up front as it can be a hassle to add later.

Also, carefully consider bed size. The small bed, 44 inch, is small, really small. Thats only slightly larger than a traditional twin bed (39 inches). To enjoy camping, you need to be comfortable in the camper. If you are cramped, it can discourage taking trips and using the camper. The "big" Scamp bed is 54 inches wide, which is the size of a double bed.

Another thing is having a place to sit inside the camper, without taking up the bed. Think what happens when you get bad weather. We made the mistake of buying a camper with no place to sit.

You and your spouse (or whoever you plan to camp with) need to have a long talk on what is important to each of you. For instance, I wanted to buy a vintage Trillium 1300. My wife cancelled that plan. No toilet, no A/C = no dice! Fortunately the conversation took place before I bought the Trillium.

IHMO, a lot of people over-estimate the capabilities of their tow vehicle AND underestimate the weight of their trailer. Manufacturers list dry weight, which is always a JOKE on trailers. Check out weights in the real world for more useful information. Secondly, people often just look at one number on their tow vehicle, the tow rating. They overlook payload capacity and tongue weight limits. Most tow vehicles run out of payload and tongue weight capacity long before they run out of "towing capacity". My truck has an ample tow rating of 9,800 pounds. Should handle anything, right? Well, I run out of payload capacity with a trailer of 5,500 pounds or less.... Irritating. Towing with a marginal tow vehicle is no fun!


Jon makes a good point below, one advantage to the stripped down Scamp is you can get the trailer really basic if that is what you want. No other F/G to my knowledge comes so basic. Basic also means light weight, which opens up TV options.
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Old 08-04-2017, 05:44 PM   #23
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Scamps enjoy a low initial price in part because stock they are stripped. Things you would think would be standard on a camper in 2017 like a furnace, refrigerator, water tank, gray water tank, black water tank, toilet, awning, AC, LED lights (last I knew) are all extra...
That's one thing I appreciate about Scamp: you can still get a very basic, no-frills trailer if that's what you want. And if you don't, Scamp offers an "option package" that bundles a long list of popular options at a greatly reduced price. The bottom line is comparable to the competition, but you have a lot more flexibility.
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