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Old 06-07-2012, 04:40 PM   #141
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Burro weights

#01 and #06? Same model ie 13 footer, B13 etc but so much different
any ideas?
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Old 06-07-2012, 06:38 PM   #142
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Yeah, look at #'s 2-4, 11, 12 and 17 all Compact Jr's

Condsider Frederick stated:
Item 02 is also My Trailer It is totally gutted, consisting of just the Frame & Wheels, Floor, Fiberglass Body, Windows, and Door.
Items 11, 12, & 17 are the same trailer, it was weighed 3 times

The weights vary by what is installed and what you carry.
Those weights range from 860 to 1750 Lbs. for the same model trailer.
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:57 PM   #143
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That is the whole point

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Same model ... but so much different
You've found the reason I have conducted this research. There is no single exact number to make the decision about which trailer is light enough for you. The best you can hope for is knowing the range of possibilities. Remember, these are not "Dry" weights, but the actual weight that people are towing.

To take the concept further, I weighed my own Fiber Stream twice in this thread, but there is more data about it in the following previous thread:
What does my Fiber Stream Weigh?

So here is a comparison of the different weights I have recorded for the same Fiber Stream trailer:
  1. Advertized Total Dry Weight = 1700 Lbs
  2. Actual Total Dry Weight = 2000 Lbs
  3. March 25, 2006 Total Traveling Weight = 2620 Lbs
  4. Today's Total Traveling weight = 3250 Lbs
Why is it so heavy today? Wretched Excess. In the past 6 years I have added Air Conditioning, Closet Shelving, and Solar Panels.
I have also doubled the steel channel in the frame, and doubled the cushions in the bed from 4" to 8".
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Old 07-24-2012, 10:51 AM   #144
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Hi All,

I just came back from Backus with a new Scamp 13. Weighted her today on quarry scales.

Scamp 13 standard

Options added:

Sani Potti
3 speed roof fan
1.9 cu.ft. refer
4 extra reading lights
group 27 battery
electric brakes
gravel shield
window over stove
front and rear overhead cabinets
silverware drawer
2 extra ac outlets
2 extra dc outlets
full propane tank

total weight (without any of my stuff and no water) 1390 lbs.

without any options and dry,I'm guessing it would probably be close to the "1200 lbs" advertised by the factory.

Hope this is of some use.

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Old 07-24-2012, 01:14 PM   #145
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Hi All,

I just came back from Backus with a new Scamp 13. Weighted her today on quarry scales.

Scamp 13 standard

Options added:

Sani Potti
3 speed roof fan
1.9 cu.ft. refer
4 extra reading lights
group 27 battery
electric brakes
gravel shield
window over stove
front and rear overhead cabinets
silverware drawer
2 extra ac outlets
2 extra dc outlets
full propane tank

total weight (without any of my stuff and no water) 1390 lbs.

without any options and dry,I'm guessing it would probably be close to the "1200 lbs" advertised by the factory.

Hope this is of some use.

Ches
Did that include the tongue weight>?
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:46 PM   #146
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Did that include the tongue weight>?
Yes.

(Car weighted with trailer) minus (Car weighted without trailer.)

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Old 09-24-2012, 06:22 AM   #147
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Interesting to see the various weights of the different models of fiberglass trailers particularly the two Boler B1300's (#5 1300 lbs total; #18 1800) 600lbs is quite a difference! I read that we can weigh our trailer at the truck weigh stations on the highway. Has anyone else done this? What is the next Boler rally Frederick (The Scaleman) will be attending?
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:58 AM   #148
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A couple of posts about a specific axle/trailer (Burro) need were split off from this topic and can be found in the Problem Solving forum, thread titled Bigger axle needed?
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What is the next ... rally Frederick (The Scaleman) will be attending?
Oct 25-29 2012: Lake Casitas 11th Rally
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I'm glad to see that you have been able to borrow the scale once again!
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Tongue Weight and Gross Trailer Weight

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As we won't be able to go to California at the end of October I was wondering if we could determine the weights with a bathroom scale and services of a truck weigh station (like those along the highway)?

I understand that an acceptable tongue weight for any trailer is 9-15% of the gross trailer weight (GTW) and that too little downward pressure on the hitch ball could result in sway; too much downward pressure (weight) could affect the TV steering. I was told we can measure the tongue weight by setting up a box or cinder blocks with a bathroom scale on top (scale to be same height as TV hitch ball) and carefully placing the tongue on the scale.

If the tongue weight is over 9-15% of GTW, trailer cargo needs to move to the rear to behind the trailer's axle. If weight is less than 9-15% of GTW, cargo needs to move forward of the axle.

Is this correct? And...how do you use a public weigh station?
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And...how do you use a public weigh station?
This is how I suggest you proceed to weigh your Travel Trailer. It shouldn't take you more than 5 minutes, and the truckers behind you will take at least that long or longer if they're getting separate axle weights, and they'll understand.
  1. Position the trailer on the end of the scale so the tow vehicle's rear axle is off the scale, but the tongue jack is over the weigh deck.
  2. Get the reading for the Axle Weight.
  3. Use the tongue jack on the scale, and unhitch raising the coupler clear of the hitch ball.
  4. Get the reading for the Total Trailer Weight.
  5. Hitch up and move away from the scale for the next customer in line.
  6. Subtract the Axle Weight from the Total Trailer Weight to compute the Tongue Weight.
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Thanks Frederick and Carol, I've copy-pasted your suggested methods into a email to my husband. (Yes, we do talk but this way he can print it out and add it to HIS trailer file.) Appreciate the information. Will try to stop at the scales on our way home from picking it up on Tuesday (hopefully they'll be opened and have few truckers).
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Post I have only some of that data

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It would be interesting if the trailer spreadsheet also showed the trailer's tow vehicle.
I was going through my paperwork and found some copies of recent forms that have that information.
The older forms were discarded and that Tow Vehicle data is lost.
I will match up the tow vehicle data with the line item in the spreadsheet in this post for the records that I do have.

ITEM_LENGTH_MAKE_______MODEL________AXLE__TONGUE__ __TOTAL_____TOW VEHICLE
06___13_____Burro______B13__________1100_____200__ __1300______2007 Toyota Tacoma
07___13_____U-Haul_____CT13_________1260_____180_____1440______2 001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
10___12.5___WeisCraft__Little Joe___1380_____180_____1560______2007 Honda Odyssey
16___13_____Scamp______Standard_____1480_____240__ __1720______2007 Honda Accord
17___13_____Hunter_____Compact Jr___1600_____150_____1750______1997 Toyota RAV4
21___13_____Scamp______Standard_____1720_____230__ __1950______2006 Hyundai Tuscon
25___16_____Casita_____Standard_____1780_____240__ __2020______2003 Ford Ranger
26___14_____Surfside___EEE-TM14_____1880_____240_____2120______2007 Toyota Tundra
31___13_____Casita_____Patriot______2280_____280__ __2560______2004 Chevrolet SSR
33___16_____Scamp______SideBath_____2400_____200__ __2600______2007 Subaru Outback
37___19_____Bonaire____Oxygen_______2420_____320__ __2740______2007 Hyundai Santa Fe
43___17_____Escape_____Plan B_______2560_____320_____2880______2009 Ford Ranger
57___17_____Casita_____Freedom______2760_____420__ __3180______2007 Toyota Rav4
59___17_____Casita_____Freedom______2880_____360__ __3240______2000 Dodge Dakota
60___16_____Fiber Stream____________3000_____250_____3250______2003 Honda Odyssey
61___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______2860_____390__ __3250______2000 Toyota Tundra
70___17_____Casita_____Freedom______2980_____340__ __3320______?? Honda Ridgeline (year not recorded)
74___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______3040_____310__ __3350______2005 Ford Explorer
83___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______2980_____450__ __3430______2005 Toyota Tacoma
84___17_____Casita_____Spirit_______2960_____470__ __3430______2010 Jeep Liberty
95___19_____Scamp______5th Wheel____3300_____560_____3860______2002 Ford Ranger
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