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Old 05-22-2011, 09:10 PM   #71
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...weighed my 1981 13' Burro. It was 1300 lbs exactly. ...the tongue weighed 200 lbs.
Just so I understand correctly, was the total weight 1300 lbs?
  • (Total) 1300 - (Tongue) 200 = (Axle) 1100 lbs
  • weighed first with the trailer unhitched and tongue jack on scale
... or was the axle weight 1300 lbs?
  • (Axle) 1300 + (Tongue) 200 = (Total) 1500 lbs
  • weighed first with the trailer hitched, and only the trailer's axle on the scale
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Old 05-22-2011, 09:29 PM   #72
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Typical "nose heavy" trailer. There's not much you can do about the weight of the propane and battery other than downsizing or moving things. You can, to a certain extent, add weight to the rear by packing your goods the right way. That will reduce nose weight as well as stress on the frame and your hitch. This is especially important with a smaller tow vehicle.

Not sure about Burros, but Scamps of that generation came with class 1 couplers... So 200 pounds would be the very limit of tongue weight. I removed my battery, and will be replacing the propane with a smaller fiberglass tank. Currently, I use a portable battery pack for trailer lights (which I replaced with LEDs). I want to get he tongue weight down to around 120 pounds or a little less.
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Just so I understand correctly, was the total weight 1300 lbs?
  • (Total) 1300 - (Tongue) 200 = (Axle) 1100 lbs
  • weighed first with the trailer unhitched and tongue jack on scale
... or was the axle weight 1300 lbs?
  • (Axle) 1300 + (Tongue) 200 = (Total) 1500 lbs
  • weighed first with the trailer hitched, and only the trailer's axle on the scale
Total weight was 1300 lbs (tongue jack on the scale). With the axle on the scale and coupled it was 1100 lbs.
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Total weight was 1300 lbs (tongue jack on the scale). With the axle on the scale and coupled it was 1100 lbs.
Thank you Jim!

I have to wonder if some of those early claims
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It only weighs 900 pounds!!!
were axle weights, and not totals...
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Thank you Jim!

I have to wonder if some of those early claims were axle weights, and not totals...
I think that 900 lbs is what it says in the brochure.
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Just so I understand correctly, was the total weight 1300 lbs?
  • (Total) 1300 - (Tongue) 200 = (Axle) 1100 lbs
  • weighed first with the trailer unhitched and tongue jack on scale
... or was the axle weight 1300 lbs?
  • (Axle) 1300 + (Tongue) 200 = (Total) 1500 lbs
  • weighed first with the trailer hitched, and only the trailer's axle on the scale
Hi: Fredrick L Simson... I always tell folks I was born at 150#'s and I'm only 200#'s fully loaded.
I'm going to the AG Mart scale to weigh the rig. Can I just weigh the whole thing then pull the truck off the scale and drop the landing gear to take the weight off the truck for the trailer weight???
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I always tell folks I was born at 150#'s
My condolences to your Mum!

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Can I just weigh the whole thing then pull the truck off the scale and drop the landing gear to take the weight off the truck for the trailer weight???
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This is how I suggest you proceed to weigh your 5th Wheel:
  1. Position the trailer on the end of the scale so the truck's rear axle is off the scale, but the landing gear is over the weigh deck.
  2. Get the reading for the Axle Weight.
  3. Drop the landing gear on the scale and unhitch.
  4. Separate the coupling by moving the hitch plate clear of the king pin.
  5. Get the reading for the Total Trailer Weight.
  6. Hitch up and move away from the scale for the next customer in line.
  7. Subtract the Axle Weight from the Total Trailer Weight to compute the Pin Weight.

For Travel Trailers, substitute "Tongue Jack" for "Landing Gear", "Coupler" for "King Pin", "Hitch Ball" for "Hitch Plate", and "Tongue Weight" for "Pin Weight" to make the directions above apply to you.
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Fred, I am truly impressed. I know how difficult it is to get something to display decently.

One more suggestion, if I may, I learned that in order to get columns to line up, use the font Courier. This font assigns all the characters the same amount of line space.

I see you learned that tab doesn't work, nor does using spaces. One has to have a character, dash, underline, etc. to space data.
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One more suggestion, if I may, I learned that in order to get columns to line up, use the font Courier. This font assigns all the characters the same amount of line space.

Courier it is!
There is a random extra space inserted intermittently in the last column.
It isn't there in the editing window, just in the submitted post.
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Thank you Jim!

I have to wonder if some of those early claims were axle weights, and not totals...
I weighed my 1980 Burro 13 when I brought it home. There was no battery and the propane tank was half full. There was no camping gear in the trailer, all the cabinet doors, cubby covers, cushions, sink, ice box, and cook top were installed. There is no water tank, water pump. or furnace and no spare tire or leveling jacks.

I jacked up 1 side, put two bathroom scales with a short piece of 2x8 bridging the scales, under the tire, lowered the jack and added the weights from both scales together. I then measured the other side the same way and measured the tongue weight using only 1 scale.

The weights were:
Door side 398 lbs
Street side 320 lbs
Hitch 90 lbs

Total weight 808 lbs

When I removed the body to replace the floor, I weighed the frame including the axle, but no wheels and it weighed 235 lbs.
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Hi: Frederick L Simson... Just got back from Agri Mart scales.
8500#s GCVW...full tank of gas + driver
3640#s GTW... 2 20# Propane tanks+ 20gal. fresh+ 6gal. hot water full.
2860#s Axle Wt. No food or beer in the fridge.
4 bag chairs, ext. table, 2 0gravity chairs, etc.
Should I go ahead and buy some "Slim Fast"?
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Just got back from Agri Mart scales.

3640#s GTW... 2 20# Propane tanks+ 20gal. fresh+ 6gal. hot water full.
2860#s Axle Wt. No food or beer in the fridge.
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Should I go ahead and buy some "Slim Fast"?
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3640 - 2860 = 780# pin weight
Alf compared to ITEM 92:
ITEM_LENGTH_MAKE_______MODEL________AXLE_TONGUE___ TOTAL
92___19______Escape______5.0__________3220____680_ ___3900
Alf___19______Escape______5.0__________2860____780 ____3640
I think you need more Beer in the fridge!
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Hi: Fredrick L Simson... So much for the DIET!!! I'll work on the balance test though.
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Hi Frederick,

I had a chance to weigh my 15 foot 1980 Trillium 4500 last night on a commercial truck scale while coming home from a trip. It came in at 820 kilograms, 1804 pounds, plus 170 pounds for the hitch weight. This was fully loaded for camping, with one propane tank, one battery, marine-grade solar panel in a frame (about 50 pounds), spare tire, two camp stoves, food, furniture, setup and levelling stuff and everything else needed for camping. We have the original fridge, furnace and stove, and the original fibreglass cabinetry. At a guess I would say that I had about 350 - 400 pounds of stuff above the “dry” weight, but no water in the water tank. This was about 130 Kg more than our similarly loaded Boler last year on the same scale, not bad for the extra 2 feet in the Trillium.

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