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Old 06-20-2011, 11:26 PM   #85
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It came in at ... 1804 pounds, plus 170 pounds for the hitch weight. This was fully loaded for camping
1974 pounds total weight for a Trillium 4500?
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Old 06-22-2011, 10:32 AM   #86
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1974 pounds total weight for a Trillium 4500?
I need to learn how to pack from you!
Actually, I thought we carried quite a bit of stuff, although apparently not as much as some people. The trailer has two jacks on the hitch, and the two rear storage compartments were stuffed full, since I added outside access doors for them a month or so ago. I do try to make everything as light weight as possible, and also to balance the tongue weight. The Trillium has double-wall construction on the inside and much sturdier fibreglass furnishings (kitchen counter, closet and seats) than our previous Boler, which would add some weight. The very heavy original dinette tables (front and rear) also added some weight, and I might look for lighter alternatives when I am seeking my next project. However, overall I was quite pleased with the weight and towing of the trailer, since this was the first time we had it out camping after buying it last winter.
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:38 PM   #87
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Another follower of the Rick Method.

Like Rick, we try to pack lightly as well, trying to be minimalistic for our 7 month adventures. As my niece tells me she survived happily for 6 weeks living out of her back pack in Europe. If we don't use it during our 7 months of travel, we don't bring it next time (Rule does not apply to tools).

We exclude coolers, tents, shade rooms, fire pits, generators, microwave oven and air conditioner from our list of necessities. We've developed guidelines for clothing and shoes, for my shoes it's a pair of sneakers and a pair of Keens (Keens can go on a hike or to church with ease.)

(Keen plug. while climbing on some seaside fossil rocks I slipped and cracked a rib wearing a good pair of sneakers. My son replaced the sneakers with some sticky soled Keens that I wear virtually every day.)

We've survived nicely with two pots and two frying pans (and are considering adding a bakepacker.) All our dishes and glasses are plastic. We carry only four forks, knives and spoons, primarily because that's more than we need and enough for dinner for four. We have no mixers, choppers or blenders. Most amazingly we never seem to miss what are household neccesities at home.

As to construction, we try to keep it light, using mosty 1/4" birch plywood and pine 1x3s. As Rick G's considering, we replaced our pressboard table with pine. Weighing less makes it easier to handle. As well we've converted our bed/dinette table into a folding table making it even easier to handle.

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When did they make this a sticky?


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Old 07-25-2011, 02:14 AM   #89
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When did they make this a sticky?
Post #46 on page 4.

The new 2011 data has been incorporated into the spreadsheet. Now with 94 individual Trailers represented, some have been weighed and reported multiple times.
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Number 26 & 29 are the same trailer weighed twice.

Great job once again Frederick!
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Sorted 1st by TOTAL, 2nd by TONGUE, and 3rd by Length

ITEM_LENGTH_MAKE_______MODEL________AXLE__TONGUE__ __TOTAL

11___13_____Scamp___________________1420_____200__ __1620

13___13_____Scamp______Standard_____1480_____240__ __1720

18___13_____Scamp______Standard_____1720_____230__ __1950

THANK YOU! This is the best info I have seen thus far on weights, though, I am a little disillusioned with the heavy weights I see listed for the 13' Scamp. I plan on purchasing a 13' Scamp equipped with no holding tanks, an ice box rather than a refrigerator, no furnace or air conditioner, a front dinette, and all the extra cabinets. With your experience on this subject, do you have an educated estimate on what my total dry weight might be?
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Scamp 13 Feedback

I can provide some feedback on the 13 foot Scamp listed as #13. It belongs to my son and I modified it for him. It differs from the standard Scamp in that it has a second battery on the hitch, making the hitch 60#s heavier than you might imagine.

The front couch has been converted to a two person dinette. One dinette seat has an inverter and converter under the seat. Both seats also have drawers under them. Between the two dinettes there is a 2x2 foot table. WHere the back of the couch connected to the wall has been converted to a shelf. A storage shelf is also located over the now front dinette.

The ice box has been removed and a dorm style AC fridge installed. Next to the fridge and under the sink 4 sliding drawers have been installed.

The rear dinette has been converted into a permanent bed with a piece of plywood replacing the table. The cushions are now covered by a 5" thick matress. Above the former dinette, now bed is a full width overhead cabinete with doors. In the right rear corder is a small wooden shelf for the TV.

Under the bed is are two four foot long drawers for clothing storage.

The hanging closet has been fully shelved.

The weight includes everything necessary for two adults at the Bandon Fiberglass Rally.

My son easily tows his 1977 Scamp 13 with a 4 cylinder Honda Accord.

If you were going for minimum weight, many of these improvements could be removed, the second battery and the fridge being the heaviest.

Hope this adds a little insight.

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Exclamation To tell the truth, I don't even know MY dry weight now

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I am a little disillusioned with the heavy weights I see listed for the 13' Scamp... With your experience on this subject, do you have an educated estimate on what my total dry weight might be?
I wouldn't want you to be comparing apples to oranges: None of the weights in this spread sheet are dry weights. These are all fully loaded weights, in towing-down-the-road-packed-for-vacation condition. I have no clue what any of these rigs' "dry weights" are, which I consider an irrelevant number.

Take for example my own 16' Fiber Stream. Back in 2006 I posted that I determined it's DRY weight to be 2000 pounds and not the 1700 pounds advertized. Then I weighed it again loaded with all my "Stuff" and it was 2620 pounds.

Fast forward 5 years. In the mean time I have modified the trailer a lot, the most significant modification being doubling up my frame to correct a skimpy under-engineered 1" x 2" box channel frame from the manufacturer. That had to increase the "dry weight". I carry a second group-27 deep cycle battery, replacing the small extra 20 amp-hour one I had before. I've built a shelving system into the closet. I've added an Air Conditioner. I'm sure there's other stuff I've forgotten about. On the way home from the Oregon Gathering in July, I weighed the trailer again which is now a stout 3250 pounds fully loaded. THIS is the weight my 2003 Honda Odyssey has to lug around everywhere I go.
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One more trailer weighed is added to the list in post #1

Boler 1700 weight

This is item #44.
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THANK YOU! This is the best info I have seen thus far on weights, though, I am a little disillusioned with the heavy weights I see listed for the 13' Scamp. I plan on purchasing a 13' Scamp equipped with no holding tanks, an ice box rather than a refrigerator, no furnace or air conditioner, a front dinette, and all the extra cabinets. With your experience on this subject, do you have an educated estimate on what my total dry weight might be?
Bill, my '84 Scamp 13 weighs about 1,200 pounds dry. Now, when I measured it, there was a nearly full propane tank on the tongue, but no battery. I removed the dead battery when I bought the Scamp and have replaced it with a jump pack, which is kept under the dinette seat. This helped me reduce overall weight, but especially tongue weight. The tongue was about 185 pounds. Now it is closer to 130-140 pounds, depending on how I load it up. It tows much better with the lower tongue weight.
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13' Trillium - 1977

We're considering purchasing a 1977 13' Trillium. Much of the literature said it's less than 1000 lb, so we thought it'd be ideal for our needs. After reading this forum, I'm scared that we'll never find a good trailer at an acceptable weight. We have a 2005 Pontiac Vibe (aka Toyota matrix) with a towing capacity of 1500. Lightweight trailers are so rare around here, but we don't want to get a different car just to tow a trailer a few weekends/year. The trailer is about two hours away, so it's not like we could swing by and get it weighed ourselves. I'm getting so frustrated with this search. If we can't get some good answers, I fear we'll have to suffer in a teensy teardrop, and I do NOT want to do that!
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We're considering purchasing a 1977 13' Trillium. Much of the literature said it's less than 1000 lb, so we thought it'd be ideal for our needs. After reading this forum, I'm scared that we'll never find a good trailer at an acceptable weight. We have a 2005 Pontiac Vibe (aka Toyota matrix) with a towing capacity of 1500. Lightweight trailers are so rare around here, but we don't want to get a different car just to tow a trailer a few weekends/year. The trailer is about two hours away, so it's not like we could swing by and get it weighed ourselves. I'm getting so frustrated with this search. If we can't get some good answers, I fear we'll have to suffer in a teensy teardrop, and I do NOT want to do that!

First, Welcome to the forum............. Your smart to question, though others will tell you they do it, you should be able to. It's not something I would advise. Your very smart to study before hand. Unfortunately it does take weighting the trailer to know the true weight. Could you ask the seller if they would have it weighted? It's a minimal cost, so perhaps offering to pay half just so you know.

Not only do you have to consider the weight of the trailer, you have to consider how your vehicles tow capacity works. Understanding it as well will help you find the perfect trailer. First off, the more passengers in a vehicle the less you can tow ( check your owners manual) . Then all your gear, food, etc adds to the weight. Gotta remember even a little ice chest loaded with beer and ice weights a lot.

Find out what your vehicles tow parameters are first so you know exactly what you need to find. Example are you a family of 4? A couple with a 150 pound dog? Or just a couple whom can camp with out having to take everything from home with you?



Good Luck on your search, let us know your parameters and hopefully we can guide you to a perfect type of trailer to search for. Again, Welcome!
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