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Old 07-12-2010, 06:02 PM   #1
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How much dose it weigh empty (4500)
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Old 07-12-2010, 07:41 PM   #2
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I don't think there can be any cut-and-dried answer on a 30+ year old trailer. I say that because of the wide variation in real (measured) weights on models that are similar to each other (Scamp 13 vs. another Scamp 13, for example). Varying accessories, batteries, tanks, flooring, etc.

In addition, most if not all of our older eggs weigh more than the factory claimed them to.

If I remember correctly, the Trillium 4500 was said to weigh around 1400# from the factory (I forget the exact figure, but I think it was 200# more than the 1300). I would be surprised if many weighed that little, especially a bathroom model. And of course they have more stowage, for more gear, than a 13-er.

My "light" guess would be somewhere in the 1600# range, without personal camping gear. More if bathroom model, two propane tanks, multiple batteries, full water tank, etc. I would think that it would be unsuitable for someone with a 1500# towing capacity, rather close (loaded) for someone with a 2000# capacity, and easily fine for someone with a 3500# capacity (these being common tow ratings).

In the end, if I were close at all on my tow rating, I would want a verified (scale) weight on an individual 4500 that I was looking to buy or tow.

Maybe a member with a weighed 4500 will chime in
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:15 PM   #3
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Hi: James R Williams... Whats a Steinway??? Depends if it's full, 1/2 full or empty!!!
All factory weights are before options, water, gas bottle and battery etc. It also depends on which axle was used and what its weight rate is.
Our Escape 5.0 has an axle rated at 3500#'s. Stated weights are 1/ dry hitch weight 480#'s and 2/ dry axle weight 2140#'s. Add them together and subtract from 3500 and you have options and cargo capacity!!! So far I haven't had the nerve to weigh the trailer ready to travel.
Pass the "Slim Fast" please.
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:51 PM   #4
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The factory sticker on my 4500 sez 2000lbs. GVW. 1978, no bathroom.
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Old 07-13-2010, 07:05 AM   #5
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Mine weighed 1800lbs when I took it to a truck weigh scale. That is before adding any food or luggage.
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Old 07-14-2010, 07:01 AM   #6
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James, to answer your question directly factor < 2000lbs. From there you can guesstimate your additional cargo, water etc.. or if you own the trailer already run by a highway scale and weigh in there. I'm taking an educated guess that at the hitch it will be 200 lbs approximately, give or take 50 lbs

You won't get precise weights from anyone here because no one here knows what floor plan you have or are looking at, but based on the input of the others you will get a ballpark. Well within reasonable tolerances (a few hundred pounds) if you're putting together the information to match up to your current tow vehicle or something that you're shopping for.

Hope to see you here often with your new trailer.
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James, to answer your question directly factor < 2000lbs. From there you can guesstimate your additional cargo, water etc.. or if you own the trailer already run by a highway scale and weigh in there. I'm taking an educated guess that at the hitch it will be 200 lbs approximately, give or take 50 lbs

You won't get precise weights from anyone here because no one here knows what floor plan you have or are looking at, but based on the input of the others you will get a ballpark. Well within reasonable tolerances (a few hundred pounds) if you're putting together the information to match up to your current tow vehicle or something that you're shopping for.

Hope to see you here often with your new trailer.
"You won't get precise weights from anyone here"

Oh really? I happened to own a 4500 and took it over a truck weigh scale. That's about as precise as it gets, Mike.
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The factory sticker on my 4500 sez 2000lbs. GVW. 1978, no bathroom.
Hi Scott,

I think that number means that the total weight of trailer and contents should not go over 2000# (but does not really tell the weight of the trailer itself).

I think the Trillium 4500s might have had a 2000# rated axle (and of course that would actually allow you to have a GVW of over 2000# [b]if you were only going by the axle rating, because the weight of the axle and wheels themselves, plus the tongue weight are not ON the axle; but then there may be other reasons the 2000# was specified by Trillium, such as the strength of the frame, coupler rating, provided tires, or etc.)

Sounds like Phil has a good ballpark, since he has the precise weight for at least one 4500.

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I happened to own a 4500 and took it over a truck weigh scale. That's about as precise as it gets, Mike.
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That's terrific Phil!

I'll put it another way...reported weights will vary due to different configurations.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:03 PM   #10
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Hi Raya,
I intentionally refrained from attempting to decipher the factory sticker.
"GVW 2000lbs."
Take it for what you will. I know that with my mods. that my trilli. is nowhere close to that!
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